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There are some things here that don't make sense.

The SWiM-16 has two outputs, that support 8 tuners each.
Power to the SWiM-16 can be from either the SWM #1, or the PWR connectors.
Since the HR34 does use/have 5 tuners, you can't connect two of them to the same output [10 tuners :eek2:].
You should be able to have either of the other DVRs on the same output, but why not leave the HR34 on one output and connect the other two to the other output?
Does the THR-22 have a bandstop filter connected?
 

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Showpro said:
Thanks for the quick response!

It is getting power thru SWiM #1 then, as that has the 4 way splitter they attached.

I understand that the SWiM ports support 8 tuners each, which was why I questioned not being able to simply have an one HR-34 on each of the SWiM ports.

The HR-34 is on one output (SWiM 2). The splitter with the HR-24, Power, and DeCa feed are on the other (SWiM 1). The THR-22 is feed RG6 from the IRD port- no filters, B band etc. Internet to the THR-22 from a separate RJ45 ethernet cable.
Right now, the only thing I see as an issue is the DECA signal is "hitting" the THR22 SAT tuner, which it shouldn't.
While the THR22 can't work with MRV, it should either have a bandstop filter or have a white DECA connected to block the DECA from the tuner. "I think" [not having the THR22] it will use the BB DECA for internet access [instead of the RJ45 cable] by connecting the DECA to the RJ45 port of the THR22. The THR22 is "merely" a HR22 hardware [which works with DECA] but has the Tivo software.

 

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Stuart Sweet said:
Showpro, I have an HR34 and a THR22 and actually they live on the same "leg" of the SWiM-16 and do so happily. I don't know if there is an issue with the THR22 being on the IRD port of the PI, I couldn't imagine there would be, but what I keep coming back to is that the THR22 keeps searching for signal when connected directly to the SWiM. This is not normal behavior.

By way of diagnostics I would check the signal strengths on the HR24 and then disconnect it, hook up the THR22 and see if the signal strengths are the same. If you get Searching errors on the THR22 when the same line handles the HR24, then something's afoul with the THR22.

I would also check the THR22 and make sure it's set up with the proper dish type, Slimline-3 and SWM enabled. It could be as simple as that. If everything is set up properly and the THR22 is misbehaving off the same cable that successfully handles an HR24, I think it's a hardware issue.
Since there are unblocked DECA signals getting to the tuner, these can/will affect the SAT readings.
A DECA signal can be 20 dB above the SAT/SWiM signal, which can be swamping the tuner chip.
 

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Showpro said:
Now that makes sense- I thought that since it was receiving internet technically thru two sources it was possibly causing glitches. The installers are coming tomorrow to clean up the wiring and I'll have them install that DeCa filter.

Currently the 4 way splitter is located outside adjacent to the SWim16. Should I have them home run RG6 back to splitter for the THR-22 or is it okay to use that IRD port? What actually is the IRD port? Is there any preference as to whether to power thru SWiM port 1 or the SWiM power port? Finally, am I better off (relative to signal strength and integrity) to have the splitter close to SWiM16 with multiple RG6 runs into house or one RG6 run to house and locate that splitter with the DeCa, Power Adapter and receivers?

Once again thanks for the quick responses!
1) to be "idiot proof" [well kind of at least] I try to keep DC power off the coax to the receivers. [so use the PWR port] I do this so I don't have to think about it when I'm swapping cables around. When you do have DC on a coax, if you make a "boo boo" you'll "smoke" the receiver. :eek2:
2) Where you locate a splitter doesn't matter, because the loss is additive. Coax [loss] and splitter [loss] = splitter and coax.
Locate them where you have the least amount of coax you need, or where it's most convenient.
The IRD port is merely the pass through port of the PI.
This is how my setup is:

 

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flipptyfloppity said:
Wow, so if I wanted to use my HR34 in one room and my old HR20 in another room I could expect problems?

This stuff is pretty complicated.
If you put a DECA on it, or a BSF no, but if you don't "then" you need to have a fair amount of loss between the DECAs and the non filtered HR20.
 

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Showpro said:
Now that makes sense- I thought that since it was receiving internet technically thru two sources it was possibly causing glitches. The installers are coming tomorrow to clean up the wiring and I'll have them install that DeCa filter.

Currently the 4 way splitter is located outside adjacent to the SWim16. Should I have them home run RG6 back to splitter for the THR-22 or is it okay to use that IRD port? What actually is the IRD port? Is there any preference as to whether to power thru SWiM port 1 or the SWiM power port? Finally, am I better off (relative to signal strength and integrity) to have the splitter close to SWiM16 with multiple RG6 runs into house or one RG6 run to house and locate that splitter with the DeCa, Power Adapter and receivers?

Once again thanks for the quick responses!
"Another thing" that comes to mind is sheltering all the connectors you can from the weather. Rain will creep into all of them and over time cause problems.
 

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mrdobolina said:
Hey VOS-

Using your setup above (mine is similar) as an example, and trying to also "idiot proof" to avoid "smoking" a reciever, would it be possible to have the PI on it's own coax running to the SWiM(that's the 4 way green splitter, right?) port that takes the power (port 1, IIRC). Then from the other 3 ports, run my coax to my boxes?

I currently have 3 HR2x's, and I am considering getting an H25 for the bedroom. Currently, the PI is run "inline" with the coax to my HR24 in the living room. The PI is behind our entertainment center, and causes the EC to stick out from the wall a good 4 inches. So I would like to move the PI to my basement (where I have several "empty" coax runs), and I would also like to prevent the possibility of "smoking" a receiver. So, to get to my point: Does taking the PI "out of line" from my receiver and giving it its own "dedicated" coax to port 1 eliminate that possibility, and will everything still work?
That would work. Remember to use a termination on the IRD port, since it still has RF there.
I try to keep my splitter size down to the minimum size needed for my receivers. Using larger splitters, than needed, is just adding more loss for no gain [usefulness].
 

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mrdobolina said:
Do you mean terminate "the other side" of the PI/the female coax connecter that currently goes to my receiver? Otherwise, I'm not sure I know what you mean.

Thanks for the great knowledge you and everyone here has!
"Well" it would be hard to terminated the connector used to power the SWiM, wouldn't it? :lol:

So "yeah" all outputs should be terminated, whether they're on a splitter or a PI.
 
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