I dunno, as long as it lets you record something else instead during the time period and it let's you watch something instead of record that show, it seems like a good form of advertising. If those two requirements aren't met it's downright wrong.
If the unit had a recording scheduled by the user at that time, the unit ignored the show suggested by the BBC.
If the owner was watching something on live TV at the time, it gave them an on-screen option to NOT record it.
If the owner gave permission or did not answer the prompt for some reason (like not watching TV at the time), it stored the show on the section of the hard drive reserved for TiVo's use (as mentioned in the agreement in the box the TiVo came in).
Yes, it stays on the menu for a week and can't be deleted. So what ? The drive space used isn't accessable to the user anyway, so no usable drive space is lost.
And NO ONE is being forced to watch the show. It's just a temporary menu option and can be ignored completely.
I just don't understand what the tinfoil-hat crowd finds so upsetting about this :shrug:
No offense to Tivo owners, but first Tivo tracks your usage (by zip code only) unless the owner physically diables it, and now records programming that the user may or may not want. Regardless of whether it takes up space that can't be used for other purposes or not, if the owner doesn't set the machine to record, it shouldn't record it.
well, it's abvuse of the system, for one thing-also, i don't think i have seen any mention anywhere that tivo is going to force recording programming on you that you can't get rid of for a period of time as part of the deal...the problem with this is if BBC can get away with it, others will want to also, the logical conclusion being that one day you DO come home and find all your avalable space used up and nothing you can do about it...
personally, the greed behind this just leaves a bad taste in my mouth...
Consider also that this was doen in the UK, not here in the USA.
People in the UK pay for TV by subscription fees. There is a different treatment of TV "rights" in that country. There is actually a fine for watching TV without having paid a license fee on the TV.
RichW, the legality of that fine is widely debated. The license is for watching OTA (and satellite/cable British) sources, and pays for the BBC. TiVo is one company, I just believe BBC was first willing to pay for this. If ABC had been first, it would have happened here.
This is effectively the same as the Starz video-on-demand feature that will place movies on DirecTivo units. But one is presented as a feature and the other is presented as troubling. Either way, something someone else thinks is important gets recorded and stored on a non-user area of the hard drive.
How you feel about it is your own business. Just because you're paranoid...
But it isn't FORCED to record, it's only recording if you aren't using the unit anyways, and it's recording to a TiVo reserved hard drive area anyways. And any statistics gathered are in an anonymous way that does not violate your right to privacy.
It's business plan calls for selling viewing data it collects and for selling targeted program placements to interested advertisers.
It's possible to opt out of the viewing data collection but you have to call TiVo's CS and wait on hold to do so. TiVo doesn't encourage you to opt out.
TiVo, Inc. is hoping most of its subscribers won't care about or even be aware of all it's revenue producing plans. It's still ascertaining the limits of what's acceptable for its service. Some of its revenue producing ideas push the envelope to the creepy line, IMHO.
As long as it is anonymous, I want my viewing habits being recorded. Before there was only the Neilsen ratings. Now I am doing my part to prop up shows that I like. And if my season pass for a show like "Jeremiah" on Showtime helps it survive then more power to the viewing habits recording.
Maybe no longer will I have to say "I loved that show but not being a Neilsen family makes my opinion worthless."
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