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That would be the older DTiVo models: HR10, HDVR2, etc. There has been an ongoing problem for people with these old boxes that, for whatever reason, were running old versions of the TiVo software that could not handle recent changes in guide data for locals. The 6.4a update was a couple of years ago and had been removed from the satellite stream. Now it is back so these folks can update (though some have trouble booting and the update requires a phone call into the TiVo service to initiate.)
 

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I remember getting mine in chunks through the phone lines with my old Sony and Phillips however it was ages ago and I could be confusing it with another system I had as well so I'll just chalk this up to being wrong as I don't want to research it.
 

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Shades228 said:
Yes I should have put prior to but that's why we keep you around. I should also clarify that I didn't include the HR10-250 as a legacy receiver.
You keep me ? Around ? Oh, yeah ... keep doing that. :rolleyes:

The TiVo slices for 6.4a spooling regardless if you'll keep me or not.:lol:
 

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Initially, DTiVo software updates did come over the phone line. At some point, though, it was changed to being downloaded over satellite with the phone call needed only for the trigger to do the update. I don't remember how long ago that was, but I would say 2005 or thereabouts.
 

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If I am not mistaken, some update versions would be in the stream for a long length of time and take a phone call to the mothership to install, then eventually removed from the stream and be downloaded solely over the phone, then installed.

When I was purchasing DVR40's, etc on eBay back in the day for other family members, I would receive them with 3.1 S/W, and it would take a long time to download the 6.2 S/W over the phone, because the introduction of folders and speed was a big deal back then. And, you had to pick the correct call in number for your area, which is not the case with the new HD DirecTiVo's.

I remember the process like it was yesterday because it would take so darn long, wasting many hours of my life doing so.

Remember the "Pending Restart" message we were always hopeful for after forcing a connection for the S/W update? Boy times have changed.
 

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Version 6.4a was delivered to DirecTiVos back in 2008 (that was the file date on the slices on my last remaining DSR80). If you used an image of 6.2 (the most popular hacked version) after that date, you or may not have gotten 6.4a downloaded. My DSR80 has not been connected to phone line since sometime in 2006 or so and 6.4a was there and waiting for me. I installed the slices to the boot partition and reset the unit and, after some "processing of the service update" I had 6.4a running. No phone call was ever made and all the locals were back in the guide.

So, a phone call is clearly NOT required to get the software, only to install it.

If anyone with a hacked unit has a problem with getting a call to work (most of the 6.2 local numbers are defunct), PTVupgrades (the InstantCake folks) have a prepackaged script called the Slicer that will move 6.4a onto your boot partition.
 

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Maybe someone can answer a question for me, regarding the HR 10-250 TiVo unit.
I currently do not have a landline and my receiver has lost its local channels.
If I were to disconnect the unit from the coax/dish, and bring the unit next door to a friends house
And plug unit into their phone line, would this allow unit to upgrade software?
DTV has been of no help in solving this problem!
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Works on Stand-Alones. Dont know about a DirecTv unit. Guess it depends if it will boot and let you into the menu's without a sat signal.

Might also just go to WalMart and get a 100' phone cable and run it between the two houses, or buy a Magic Jack for $20 and have a landline for the Tivo off your internet connection. Might have to drop the connect rate on the Tivo modem down to 28.8 for it to work reliably though.
 

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Well hooked up receiver to my neighbors phone line went thru all the usual steps and still no locals
Unit connected with TiVo service as indicated but software version remains unchanged!
The unit states that it next scheduled call will be tonight
.so one call to TiVo has not returned local channels.
 
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