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Total Choice Plus what am i losing in Feb.

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I currently have total choice plus,received my bill today with the Choice extra classic change. Has Directv announced what channels i will lose in Feb?
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Sprout and Cloo
onan38 said:
I currently have total choice plus,received my bill today with the Choice extra classic change. Has Directv announced what channels i will lose in Feb?
I have Plus as well...you're grandfathered in, so you won't lose it, unless you change your package yourself...
Do we gain anything?
rkish said:
I have Plus as well...you're grandfathered in, so you won't lose it, unless you change your package yourself...
This isn't the case anymore. Grandfathered packages are going away, replaced with Choice Xtra Classic.
pfp said:
Do we gain anything?
Easier self management on the site? We are getting new HD this year, but don't know what or on what package.
So in summary we get changed more ($) for less (channels)
It all depends. Customers on Choice are gaining Nat Geo. Personally, I don't watch Cloo or Sprout so it's a non issue. But I can see why it's an issue for some, particularly Sprout.

And we have been told that more HD is coming this year.
If I loose channels I like & have to pay more money, I'm SO out of here......
pfp said:
So in summary we get changed more ($) for less (channels)
No different than what DTV gets. Those exact same channels they (DTV) offered you in 2011 in Total Choice Plus will cost DTV about 9% to 10% more in 2012, despite nothing changing for them. ESPN is still ESPN. Travel Channel is still Travel Channel.

They raised your rates 4%, but DTV's programming rates rose 10%. So they're going to cut channels out.

To suggest you get nothing for more money is also disingenous. Is the service offering the same in 2012 that it was in 2011 or prior? Of course not. New HD UI, new HD channels, 3D channels, larger VOD library, etc, etc.
Where can I find details on the new Entertainment package I heard about somewhere on this site? I heard it was cheaper and didn't include your local RSN. I never watch my local RSNs so I am interested in this.
ChicagoBlue said:
They raised your rates 4%, but DTV's programming rates rose 10%.
You're comparing apples to oranges. Example: If programming is only 10% of their TOTAL operating costs, then their cost to operate only went up 1%. So until you calculate programming increase against the total operating cost and subscription rates with total revenue, you can't really compare these two against each other. (Note: in 2010, DirecTV's programming costs were about 52% of their total costs).
dpeters11 said:
This isn't the case anymore. Grandfathered packages are going away, replaced with Choice Xtra Classic.
I hadn't read this. My account is currently suspended, but I have Total Choice. Will I also be switched to Choice Xtra Classic?
trh said:
You're comparing apples to oranges. Example: If programming is only 10% of their TOTAL operating costs, then their cost to operate only went up 1%. So until you calculate programming increase against the total operating cost and subscription rates with total revenue, you can't really compare these two against each other. (Note: in 2010, DirecTV's programming costs were about 52% of their total costs).
So, using your numbers of programming costs of approximately 50% of total costs, we can calculate that the 10% increase in programming costs is increasing their total costs approximately 5%. Certainly, they are rough calculations, but are close enough to show that a 4% increase in prices is reasonable.

Obviously, these calculations don't take into account other sources of income, such as advertising sold. It also doesn't take into account other expense increases, such as personnel costs, which are likely rising as well.

However, it still boils down to whether they provide a benefit that is equal to the price they will be charging. For some it will be yes, and they will continue as customers. For some, this answer will be no, and they will go elsewhere.

For some, it will be no, but they won't find another provider that provides what they want at a price they feel is equal to the benefit. They will have the hard choices to make, and likely won't be happy with whatever they decide.
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