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I apologize in advance for such a long post...

A couple of days ago I relocated my hr20-700. The new location has two sat lines and an antenna line coming from the wall. Great.... So I think all is working after setting up the home theater receiver, dvd player and sat receiver.

Yesterday when I turned on the set to check I had a screen that displayed something about signal problems (don't remember exactly what this screen looked like) and when I pressed menu there were only two things listed. I RBR and got the picture back, but now I'm having "searching for signal on tuner 2" errors when changing SAT channels.

I do the record thing to check if the other tuner is working and sure enough I've only got one tuner working. I check the signal strengths and Tuner 2 fluctuates from 0 to 40. I switch the wires and now have signal strength on Tuner 2, but 0 on Tuner 1... no fluctuation. I switch the bbc's and the same results. I went thru the satellite setup again and this at least fixed it so only 1 tuner is recognized and I can change channels without getting the signal error. I figure it thinks there is only one line connected because it's not getting signal from a 2nd. (Where the receiver is at now.)

Today, Just to check, I switched the wires again and went thru the sat setup one more time. This time all sat signal boxes were marked with "X" and neither tuner had signal, where during the previous setup, all the sat boxes had check marks in them (except 1) with the statement that there is no signal on tuner 2, please check your installation, etc.. My conclusion, the cable is bad but so is one of the tuners? At this point this doesn't really make sense to me at all.

So as a last resort (should have been done earlier :rolleyes:), I follow the SAT lines in the storage area where everything comes in from the attic/dish. And what do I find... there are only 5 lines running off the side with 8 connectors, where I would have expected to find 6 as I have 3 rooms wired for dual tuners. The 5th cable appears to be going to the room with the problem. I look a little further and I find a disconnected cable that is marked "Basement Sat Reciever". It's located near the CABLE company splitter/booster about 10 feet from the multiswitch... hmmm... This was probably the cable line going into my Sony HR10-250 as it could take cable/sat/ant. COOL I think to myself... here's the problem. I connect it to the multiswitch... I checked the TV and did a menu reset. I still got the searching for signal error. WTH... I don't think I redid the sat setup this time and maybe, in retrospect, that's what's missing because when I checked the signal strengths, I had signal for both tuners in the 80-90's.

In the mean time, I've got a service call scheduled for 9/8... All this diagnosing was done after the call to D* and I found that I'd be waiting so long for an appointment. May as well try to get it working myself if possible :).

I'd appreciate any thoughts the experts out there may have.

TIA,
Sbergstc
 

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Yeah... you got me stumped on this one. I guess just wait for tech?? You getting both odds and evens on both tuners on sat 101? what about 103? if yes/yes and yes/yes i definitely have no clue. Wow the 9th? Was there a bad storm in your area? whenever i see a date that far off it usually follows a nasty bit of weather, unless there are genuinely that many service calls/installs/upgrades/lack of installers in your area.
 

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I'll check odds/evens tomorrow... I've had enough of that receiver for today :)... I'm also going to reconnect the cable I found, do the Sat setup again, do a menu reset and see if that makes any difference. This box worked fine before, altho it wasn't used very often. I don't know what could have changed.

The service call was originally offered for the 4th, but I wasn't available that week, so I got the following week.
 

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OK, so I hooked up the 6th sat line again and did a menu reset. When it got back to live picture I checked the signal strength meters and I was getting 85-90% on BOTH TUNERS. When I tried the record one channel and change to another it wouldn't work. Told me to either cancel or stop recording. When I check signal strengths (not meters but numbers) I only have ODD numbers for tuner 2 (SAT 101; didn't check any others).

So I ran the SAT setup again... got the same message as yesterday. No signal on Tuner 2; came up as a single tuner in the configuration box. Did another menu reset. Checked the sat signal numbers again and tuner 1 began populating the numbers and then started popping up 0's. Tuner 2 was all zeros. Whoa! What the heck happened... Did a rbr and when got to live tv checked signals again and all fine on Tuner 1 and nothing on Tuner 2.

There for a minute I thought WOOHOO I figured it out... but then it went south. Now I'm totally baffled...

Any thoughts anyone???

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I just upgraded from a R15, to a R22 yesterday and had issues with Tuner 2 and 771 from the start, but it was only on the HD channels....(The R15 has been flawless)....I am using a 3LNB dish currently so I know I would only get the 70's HD channels, but I could only get 3 of them with the R22...The others would all say "searching for sat on tuner 2"and error 771......The interesting thing is that checking the signal strength results in good signal on both tuners...Also the 110* sat has all n/a or 0 readings.........After almost 4 hours of several calls combined on the phone with Directv and numerous resets and cable swaps yesterday, they told me the R22 is a new receiver and may be more designed for the 5LNB dish.....They recommended that I take it back and exchange this one and see if the same issue occurs....I have an appointment later in the week for a 5LNB dish anyway, but I want to make sure that it just wasn't the receiver that was defective.. It seems however that this is looking more and more like a software issue, as mine took the 0255 update during set-up yesterday, and seems like many are having the same issue with the R21's as well.. .......I'm going to exchange it now and I'll post results later today..............
 

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Update:

So I exchanged the R22 for another one, but before I hooked it up, decided to check the 110* signal on my other two basic receivers, and lo and behold, they were extremelly low as well........(Don't ask why I didn't think of that yesterday)....Anyway, I began to suspect the dish was out of alignment.....Due to a bad mounting D* job originally, where the mounting base began pulling the side strip of my house away and D* would not come fix it without a $50, charge, I re-bolted and nailed the sidding back in....The reason I noticed in the first place was that my signal would drop at the same time every day, when the sun was aiming directly at the dish, and upon inspection, noticed the dish was actually pulling away from the house because the siding was bowing out as well.....After my repair, my signal levels returned to 90's and no more daily drop outs..........Anyway, before setting up the new R22, I decided to give the dish a nudge with the 110* signal generator on and the signals on 110* shot right up............Got the new R22 DVR receiver set up and had numbers where there were just 0's before......And all HD channels in the 70's are working fine now.........But the D* installer WILL be mounting the new 5LNB dish on the roof eve this time instead of the siding of the house..............
 

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sbergstc said:
OK, so I hooked up the 6th sat line again and did a menu reset. When it got back to live picture I checked the signal strength meters and I was getting 85-90% on BOTH TUNERS. When I tried the record one channel and change to another it wouldn't work. Told me to either cancel or stop recording. When I check signal strengths (not meters but numbers) I only have ODD numbers for tuner 2 (SAT 101; didn't check any others).

So I ran the SAT setup again... got the same message as yesterday. No signal on Tuner 2; came up as a single tuner in the configuration box. Did another menu reset. Checked the sat signal numbers again and tuner 1 began populating the numbers and then started popping up 0's. Tuner 2 was all zeros. Whoa! What the heck happened... Did a rbr and when got to live tv checked signals again and all fine on Tuner 1 and nothing on Tuner 2.

There for a minute I thought WOOHOO I figured it out... but then it went south. Now I'm totally baffled...

Any thoughts anyone???

sbergstc
I wonder if it isnt the latest software update.I have 3 Hr20-100s and have experienced almost the same thing ay you have especially with the tuner 2 and 2 red exes saying something was wrong on 101 odd and evens.But the thing of it is im getting signals on everything all transponders and have no channel loss this has never happened before but for now mine are doing fine so maybe a software update will fix the problem hopefully.I just do a menue reboot if nessasary and avoide the setup again feature all together.
 

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:mad: All the sudden my HR-20 100 is getting 771 on tuner 2 on the 101 sat channels.

I checked the sat signal strengths and the only problem is 101 on tuner 2, all the other sats are fine on both tuner 1 and 2.

I hope DirecTV figures out what is going on and it is just a firmware thing. I don't want to replace my receiver and lose all my recorded programs.
 

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:mad: All the sudden my HR-20 100 is getting 771 on tuner 2 on the 101 sat channels.

I checked the sat signal strengths and the only problem is 101 on tuner 2, all the other sats are fine on both tuner 1 and 2.

I hope DirecTV figures out what is going on and it is just a firmware thing. I don't want to replace my receiver and lose all my recorded programs.
with this being only on 101, it could be a couple things beside the HR20 that could be wrong.
  • Bad LNB sat 101
  • loose connection
  • bad multiswitch (if you have one?)
some things you could try is:
  • soft reboot-- reboot the receiver and see if that clears things up. ether by a menu reset or by a RBR (red button reset)
  • cold reboot-- pull the power cord for 10 minutes or so and let it reboot.
one thing that would help us help you better is give us more info about your setup.
 

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gulfwarvet said:
with this being only on 101, it could be a couple things beside the HR20 that could be wrong.
  • Bad LNB sat 101
  • loose connection
  • bad multiswitch (if you have one?)
some things you could try is:
  • soft reboot-- reboot the receiver and see if that clears things up. ether by a menu reset or by a RBR (red button reset)
  • cold reboot-- pull the power cord for 10 minutes or so and let it reboot.
  • inspect all your coax connections
  • inspect the LNB's for crack or water inside them (if achievable)
one thing that would help us help you better is give us more info about your setup.
EDIT:
added to the list to check for
 

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Had the same problem. Replaced both B-Band Converters about four days ago and both tuners now work. Wiggle the B-Band Converters in the back and see if tuner #2 starts to work. Sometimes it got tuner #2 to work and other times it didn't help. I had this problem since day 1 with my HR21-700 and finally the new converters fixed the problem instantly. If you need a new converter, Directv will send you two of them, free of charge.
 
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