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TurboHD and PBS

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I just subscribed to TurboHD (bronze) with locals about two weeks back. I have been watching PBS shows for years OTA in analog. After looking at the locals for my address, I should get the full suite of Boston DMA channels.

However, after trying, it appears that Turbo HD w/locals only gets you HD locals (and their SD counterparts), but no just-SD locals (e.g. PBS, etc). I was reading about the PBS-HD carriage issues, and am hoping that works itself out at some point, but I wanted to confirm here. Have others seen the same with respect to HD-only locals with new TurboHD packages? I suppose I could add one of the AT packages for all the SD crap, but I don't realy want all those SD channels.

Thanks for the help.
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as far as i'm aware you should still be able to get the sd-only locals as well as the hd ones and their sd counter-parts. is your guide set on "all HD"?
Agreed ... all the SD locals should be included with TurboHD. DISH would be violating the law if they did not offer all locals within the market (unless a local refused to allow their signal to be carried - PBS is defined as must carry so it should be there).

The only reason why PBS would not be included with locals is if you're in a market with no PBS station.
But if Dish includes SD locals, wouldn't it no longer be the only 100% HD package?

I know the HD Absolute package I'm grandfathered with does include some SD... but I really thought the TurboHD 100% HD package would not include any. IF they include none, then I say that's fine... but if they include any, then I agree you should get your SD locals to fill in the gaps... and Dish would have to stop saying "100% HD" in their commercials.
the locals aren't the package they are an add-on ;)
puckwithahalo said:
as far as i'm aware you should still be able to get the sd-only locals as well as the hd ones and their sd counter-parts. is your guide set on "all HD"?
I set the guide to 'all HD', 'all Subs', and 'all Chan' and in no case do I even see the local PBS listed. I also tried manually changing to the 4 digit channel for the local PBS (from EKB channel chart) with no luck.

James Long said:
Agreed ... all the SD locals should be included with TurboHD. DISH would be violating the law if they did not offer all locals within the market (unless a local refused to allow their signal to be carried - PBS is defined as must carry so it should be there).

The only reason why PBS would not be included with locals is if you're in a market with no PBS station.
I'm in the Boston, MA DMA, so I have a local PBS (WGBH) which is included in the Boston DMA locals, according to the dish site.

I jumped on a customer support 'chat' last night and was told that since I have a 'HD Locals' package, then I do not get the SD local channels that are not also broadcast in HD (e.g PBS). I do receive the SD counterparts to the HD locals I receive (NBC, ABC, CBS, Fox). I was suspicious of the answer from customer support, thus why I asked here.

Any suggestions on how to escalate with them to get PBS (in SD for now)? Normal customer support channel wasn't effective.
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If you have the OTA set up, hook it into the receiver and scan for them. You should get the HD PBS that way.
I'm north of Seattle and I have Turbo HD gold (new two week old customer) and I receive the SD locals (several PBS, plus CW and MYQ2). 2,4,7 and 13 are in HD.
Does Dish normally pick up PBS in HD when it adds locals?

In my market, DirecTV began offering locals in HD (grrr, Dish Network) but does not carry PBS in HD.
I live in Mass and I have the Turbo HD Gold package with locals. You get all of the local channels in SD and you get ABC, NBC, CBS, and FOX in HD. Tune your receiver to channel 2 and you will get PBS SD. Change you guide to "All Sub" and you will see all of the SD channels you get, there are quit a few, shopping channels, Latino channels, and paid advertisment channels. I leave mine on "All HD" and tune into PBS when I want to watch it.

Local channels currently available in this package:
Boston, MA Locals Package - $5.99 per month
Station Local Channel Number Dish Channel Number
BOSTON ABC-WCVB 5 8770
BOSTON ABC-WMUR 9 8784
BOSTON CBS-WBZ 4 8771
BOSTON CW-WLVI 56 8774
BOSTON FOX-WFXT 25 8773
BOSTON IND-WWDP 46 8785
BOSTON MNT-WZMY 50 8777
BOSTON NBC-WHDH 7 8772
BOSTON PBS-WGBX 44 8782
BOSTON PBS-WENH 11 8781
BOSTON PBS-WGBH 2 8776
BOSTON TELEF-WUTF 66 8780
BOSTON TELEMUNDO-WNEU 60 8779
BOSTON UNVSN-WUNI 27 8778
BOSTON ABC-WCVB HD 5 6318
BOSTON CBS-WBZ HD 4 6319
BOSTON FOX-WFXT HD 25 6321
BOSTON NBC-WHDH HD 7 6320
BOSTON IND-WSBK 38 8775
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CorpITGuy said:
Does Dish normally pick up PBS in HD when it adds locals?

In my market, DirecTV began offering locals in HD (grrr, Dish Network) but does not carry PBS in HD.
No, in most markets Dish does not. And in most markets they don't pick up The CW.
They do not pick up PBS-HD, CW-HD, and UPN-HD which are availible in the Boston area
faiello said:
They do not pick up PBS-HD, CW-HD, and UPN-HD which are availible in the Boston area
No PBS or WWOR 9 (UPN affiliate) in HD in NY. They do have more SD locals then I will ever watch. But we do have WPIX-HD 11 which is the CW affiliate for NY.
I did send dish an email and they basically said they where working on it. :eek2:
Someday!!!
faiello said:
They do not pick up PBS-HD, CW-HD, and UPN-HD which are availible in the Boston area
UPN and the WC merger to become the CW.
whatchel1 said:
UPN and the WC merger to become the CW.
Yep, and in most markets the station that didn't become The CW affiliate became the MyNetwork affiliate like WWOR in Boston.
HDMe said:
But if Dish includes SD locals, wouldn't it no longer be the only 100% HD package?

I know the HD Absolute package I'm grandfathered with does include some SD... but I really thought the TurboHD 100% HD package would not include any. IF they include none, then I say that's fine... but if they include any, then I agree you should get your SD locals to fill in the gaps... and Dish would have to stop saying "100% HD" in their commercials.
In my DMA there are four PBS stations in SD, but I don't know if they broadcast in HD.
Turbo HD is not 100% HD as I said before you get shopping channels, religious channels, and most of the HD channels in their twin SD channel
phrelin said:
Yep, and in most markets the station that didn't become The CW affiliate became the MyNetwork affiliate like WWOR in Boston.
WWOR is in New York City buddy!
I get the CW channel 11 in HD but I don't get channel 9 or 13. I can pull in 9 and 11 over the air, 13 forget about it. I can at most only get 2 red bars with no picture. I wish Dish Network would carry 9 and 13 in HD.
reddice said:
I get the CW channel 11 in HD but I don't get channel 9 or 13. I can pull in 9 and 11 over the air, 13 forget about it. I can at most only get 2 red bars with no picture. I wish Dish Network would carry 9 and 13 in HD.
i have turbo with sd channels....as stated above, they are local and shopping stuff....but i get pbs HD and CW HD fom my OTA....not through Dish
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