"TV HDMI Input Does Not Support Copy Protection"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-bandwidth_Digital_Content_Protection

The next step in DRM/Copyright protection.

Theres nothing wrong per say, your tv set just doesnt support HDCP. As more channels and networks begin to support it the less you will be able to watch until you upgrade to a different tv or use component cable (though rumor has it phase 2 of HDCP will knock out component too)

Inkosaurus said:

Theres nothing wrong per say, your tv set just doesnt support HDCP.

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HDMI TVs that don't support HDCP are very rare. They must be at least seven years old and have shipped to stores prior to July 1, 2005.

We need to know much more about the setup including whether or not there's an AVR or a switch involved and what channels it is happening on.

Fair enough lol. I still wouldnt rule out the TV's age though, for the time being its still the safest bet.

Are you running the output of your TV to another device (like a DVD recorder) as well as the TV? This could trigger the copy protection message.

I have the same issue on 1 of my 4 TVs that are connected via HDMI. It is because of the TV itself. It doesn't appear to be as old as you say, but I got it free from a third party, so I know nothing about it.

Supramom2000 said:

I have the same issue on 1 of my 4 TVs that are connected via HDMI. It is because of the TV itself. It doesn't appear to be as old as you say, but I got it free from a third party, so I know nothing about it.

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Then use Internet resources to research your free TV capabilities and features. Check for HDCP support.

I don't really care enough to search. I don't use that TV. It gets used maybe once every 2 weeks. And it only has issues on Showtime.

Supramom2000 said:

I don't really care enough to search. I don't use that TV. It gets used maybe once every 2 weeks. And it only has issues on Showtime.

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Happens to me when older TV connected to HDMI is powered down and HDMI cable is left plugged into it, but only when trying to view "protected" content, such as HBO/Cinemax, Starz/Encore and certain On-Demand titles from mainstream cable channels.

However, Showtime/TMC for me aren't causing problems, yet.

Inkosaurus said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-bandwidth_Digital_Content_Protection

The next step in DRM/Copyright protection.

Theres nothing wrong per say, your tv set just doesnt support HDCP. As more channels and networks begin to support it the less you will be able to watch until you upgrade to a different tv or use component cable (though rumor has it phase 2 of HDCP will knock out component too)

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Well, if knocking out component happens anytime soon, I'll be dropping any and all channels to do so. Not worried so much about PPV, which would make more sense. (Don't watch a lot of PPV; it wouldn't be that big an issue for me.) But if it happens to premiums, they'll be the first to go.

"Delroy E Walleye" said:

Well, if knocking out component happens anytime soon, I'll be dropping any and all channels to do so. Not worried so much about PPV, which would make more sense. (Don't watch a lot of PPV; it wouldn't be that big an issue for me.) But if it happens to premiums, they'll be the first to go.

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You'll drop those channels and another 1K will sign up and get those channels. Kind of no point to dropping them as you won't hurt them only yourself cause you'll miss all the shows you've been use to watching. I know it's your choice and I respect that. I am just curious as to why you'd drop them if they do black out component? Maybe once they get better protection for their content and they see increased revenue, maybe we will see a slow down of the price increases? One can dream right?! LOL

Bill Broderick said:

Are you running the output of your TV to another device (like a DVD recorder) as well as the TV? This could trigger the copy protection message.

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No. The TV is less than two years old and this message only recently began appearing. No programming, to date, has been blocked.

Inkosaurus said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-bandwidth_Digital_Content_Protection

The next step in DRM/Copyright protection.

Theres nothing wrong per say, your tv set just doesnt support HDCP. As more channels and networks begin to support it the less you will be able to watch until you upgrade to a different tv or use component cable (though rumor has it phase 2 of HDCP will knock out component too)

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His set could very well support HDCP and still get these messages. I know my panny plasma supports HDCP and I will get the message for a second or two on rare occasions.

The problem is the committee designed HDMI interface. Implementations of HDMI w/HDCP shouldn't be an issue at all at this stage of the game, that they still are having issues is very damning of the interface.

We can add the HDCP oddities to the other HDMI oddities that have shown up over the years.

lparsons21 said:

His set could very well support HDCP and still get these messages. I know my panny plasma supports HDCP and I will get the message for a second or two on rare occasions.

The problem is the committee designed HDMI interface. Implementations of HDMI w/HDCP shouldn't be an issue at all at this stage of the game, that they still are having issues is very damning of the interface.

We can add the HDCP oddities to the other HDMI oddities that have shown up over the years.

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Mine does support HDCP. I believe you are correct and it is a HDMI standards/implementation issue.

At one point last year I had HDMI and Component cables run from the DTV receiver to my TV so I could compare the pictures from the different cable methods.
With both of them plugged into my TV if I chose the Component Cable Input I would get that message about using the Component Cables.
I called them about that since I was getting the message using the component cables.
The guy was sharp and on top of the problem. He told me to unplug the HDMI cable. I did and the picture popped right up.

After reading the many many complaints about the HDMI handshakes I decided to unplug from the HDMI permanently. I now just run the Component cables on my HR23 since it does away with the handshake and has the exact same picture quality ( I do not rent PPVs ).

EDIT: I use an optical cable out to my Yamaha for sound when watching TV when my son is awake and the red and white and TV sound when he is asleep since I have the sound way down low.

The problem with using component cables these days is that if you want a home theater type setup, most of the lower to low-mid range AVRs are not including many or no component inputs, going all HDMI.

You have to move up the food chain a bit to get those analog inputs.

lparsons21 said:

The problem with using component cables these days is that if you want a home theater type setup, most of the lower to low-mid range AVRs are not including many or no component inputs, going all HDMI.

You have to move up the food chain a bit to get those analog inputs.

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Yeah since component cables audio only supports SD audio that makes sense lol.
If you want HD sound you need HDMI or optic cables.

Inkosaurus said:

Yeah since component cables audio only supports SD audio that makes sense lol.
If you want HD sound you need HDMI or optic cables.

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Huh ? No one hold your hands to use L/R analog signal with _separate_ video [component] cable - use optical with it.
Component cable it's a VIDEO cable.
And what is "SD" audio ?

P Smith said:

Huh ? No one hold your hands to use L/R analog signal with _separate_ video [component] cable - use optical with it.
Component cable it's a VIDEO cable.
And what is "SD" audio ?

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My Yamaha displays Dolby Digital on the HD channels and Pro Logic on the SD channels ( which I do not watch ).
I guess that could be called SD audio.

You are missed point of using separate analog video cable [component] and digital audio [optical], plus you are mixed analog audio and digital audio signals.