Tv Input Question

finaldiet said:

Son-in-law had 2 HD DVR's installed yesterday. One working but one problem with other. He has an RCA HD tv connected by component. When he turns receiver on,The main DTV screen always comes up with tv imput screen. He has to toggle the remote to the "compn" icon and select it for picture. Tech guy didn't know why. He just said some tv's work that way. Any ideas?

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Does the TV auto-detect inputs and are both DVRs connected via component?

What remote are you using?

Are the DVRs on or in standby?

I'm just guessing but if the TV auto-detects and both DVRs are on it will need to be told which input to use. If you have them in standby when the one you want to watch powers the TV may not prompt you for an input.

Mike

Do you mean that he has to select the correct input for the one he wants to watch? If so then that's the way it should be. Just not sure if that is your question.

I believe both are connected component. The problem receiver is on, but other is off. I've fooled around with receivers quite a bit but can't seem to figure it out. I thought maybe is tv internal control is set to tv only. His RCA doesn't have an HDMI imput.

Can you give us the TV model # and a description of how everything is connected?

What button press gets what response from the TV?

We'll keep at it till we figure it out figure it.

Mike

MicroBeta said:

Can you give us the TV model # and a description of how everything is connected?

What button press gets what response from the TV?

We'll keep at it till we figure it out figure it.

Mike

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RCA model F38301.Has remote in DTV mode. When it turns on, it goes to roof mode on tv. He then selects the imput for component for DTV screen to come on for channels. He has it connected by component. We checked tv menu and its set ok. DTV sent installer back out yesterday, but he was unable to get it to work. He has his other receiver connected to a new LCD and worked right away. The only difference is he has only one wire going to LCD tv. Why, I don't know.

I just googled his tv and it has a built-in DTV tuner. Could this cause the problem between it and the new receiver?

Edmund said:

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=129505&highlight=RCA

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Edmond
I understand the article but it doesn't take in that the tv has a DTV tuner. I believe the receiver has a conflict with the tuner. Do you think that the built-in tuner can be by-passed somehow? If not, hes stuck with doing it the long way.

From reading that linked thread, it seems that the TV is automatically selecting the TV tuner when it's turned on. There may be an obscure TV setting to turn off that behavior or to even disable the internal tuner (if it isn't really needed).

finaldiet said:

Edmond
I understand the article but it doesn't take in that the tv has a DTV tuner. I believe the receiver has a conflict with the tuner. Do you think that the built-in tuner can be by-passed somehow? If not, hes stuck with doing it the long way.

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The built-in directv tuner has nothing do with it, because it happens on non-directv tuner RCA tv's too.

If there were a RCA tv code that didn't map the discrete power commands to the TV ON & OFF keys, instead had the power toggle there, eveything would be alright.

I believe the reference to DTV tuner by finaldiet meant "digital TV" tuner, not DirecTV tuner.

jdspencer said:

I believe the reference to DTV tuner by finaldiet meant "digital TV" tuner, not DirecTV tuner.

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No Jim, that tv has a built-in RCA HD directv receiver, equivalent to the stand alone HD directv receiver DTC-100.

finaldiet said:

Tech guy didn't know why. He just said some tv's work that way. Any ideas?

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Many RCA TVs have a default input option that you can set through the menus. If you don't declare a default input, it should come up on the input that was in use when the TV was put into standby.

Thanks
I believe it has to be in tv settings in menu also. When I get to his house, I'll tinker around with. Again, thanks for the imput.

Edmund said:

No Jim, that tv has a built-in RCA HD directv receiver, equivalent to the stand alone HD directv receiver DTC-100.

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Okay. But, the problem remains that it is the TV causing this situation. Most newer TVs will power up to whatever input it was last on.

jdspencer said:

Okay. But, the problem remains that it is the TV causing this situation. Most newer TVs will power up to whatever input it was last on.

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Its the discrete ON command mapped to the TV ON key on the white remotes that triggers the tv to turn to tv tuner, and nothing will change that, unless they find a code that doesn't map this discrete command. Probably than the key won't work at all, and they would have to slide to the tv device and use the middle power key, which isn't discrete command, instead is a toggle.

"Its the discrete ON command mapped to the TV ON key "
I believe what he is saying might be better understood by this:
On my onkyo reciever it has:
1. a power on command
2. if you send the input command (av1,2,3) it will power up with that input on

the problem with your tv is that it uses the second style code to turn on, unfortunately it only uses the "tv" one and therefore resets the display to "tv" everytime you turn it on..

Other discrete ON commands from RCA SAT, DVD, and VCR are other inputs on the RCA tv set. They're also inputs for RCA av receivers, which used to come in handy because the OFA preset code for RCA receiver were missing the SAT & DVD input commands.

http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/mboard/rc-one4all/thread.cgi?2658

It seems that a macro enabled universal remote could fix this problem. The macro would turn on the TV and then change to the proper input.