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UHF remote controlling TV1

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I did some searches and didn't find a direct answer to something I'm a bit confused about.

After running my 622 in dual mode for the last 1 1/2 years I have now switched it to single mode to watch HD programming on a new flat panel in the kitchen. I ran 50' of component cable to get the HD signal from the 622 to the new tv, in case you were wondering.

My question is in how I should set up the tv2 (UHF) remote for the new operation.

In reading several threads people talk about re-setting the switch under the key at the bottom to position 3 and using a new number one key(which I have). The manual however simply states that you only need to switch the receiver to single mode and you're done. I have done this and everything seems to be working correctly?? Am I missing something?

I know you're going to say "if it ain't broke don't fix it" but I'm a perfectionist(my wife calls it anal retentive) and want everything to be set up exactly right.
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If you're in single mode, you don't need to do anything. TV2 remote will operate the same as TV1 remote.
zuffy said:
If you're in single mode, you don't need to do anything. TV2 remote will operate the same as TV1 remote.
Ok, then what is the advantage of setting the key switch to the 3rd position that others have talked about?
JeffN9 said:
Ok, then what is the advantage of setting the key switch to the 3rd position that others have talked about?
That is needed if you want to operate in dual mode, and have BOTH TV1 and TV2 controlled via UHF. Like if you put your receiver in a closed closet or cabinet and need to control TV1 via UHF, but want an independent TV2 also controlled by UHF. If Single mode is active, there is no reason to not just use the TV2 remote (although that remote can't change the Shared View setting).
CABill said:
That is needed if you want to operate in dual mode, and have BOTH TV1 and TV2 controlled via UHF. Like if you put your receiver in a closed closet or cabinet and need to control TV1 via UHF, but want an independent TV2 also controlled by UHF. If Single mode is active, there is no reason to not just use the TV2 remote (although that remote can't change the Shared View setting).
Ok this makes sense to me now. I can also see a scenerio where someone might have three tv's,(2 HD and 1 SD) hooked up to one receiver and want to control the receiver with two UHF remotes.

Slightly off topic but what exactly is shared view? The book says it is needed for the UHF remote to control tv1?

Thanks for the help.
I use Dual, not Single, mode so that TV2 and its UHF remote are independent of what is happening on TV1 in the main room. The TV1 remote can disable Shared View when the receiver is in Single mode and then the TV2 UHF Pro remote is non-functional, and the TV2 outputs (usually the coax going to the bedrooms, etc) doesn't carry a copy of whatever TV1 is watching. If you are watching the 1 cent Cinemax late at night and don't want the remote TV2 to also show it, you might disable Shared View. Or, you don't want the TV2 remotes in the distant rooms to be able to stop your recording(s)? Single mode with Shared View off is TV1 remote(s) only. Usually just IR, but another case where a UHF Pro with the switch in position #3 for TV1 *could* do something that a TV2 remote couldn't do - stop Dad's game so they can channel surf.
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We do not have any kids so no worries about naughty movies and since there is only the two of us I do not anticipate many problems with having to watch the same Dish programming on two tv's. In fact we had a similiar setup with Direct for 8 years before switching to Dish. Also since both tv's have ATSC tuners one can watch OTA while the other is watching something on the dish. We are enjoying being able to watch Dish HD programming in the kitchen and also the DVR recorded stuff in HD.

Just switching to single mode seemed way to easy to me, I thought I was missing something.

Thanks for all the info CABill.
JeffN9 said:
We do not have any kids so no worries about naughty movies and since there is only the two of us I do not anticipate many problems with having to watch the same Dish programming on two tv's. In fact we had a similiar setup with Direct for 8 years before switching to Dish. Also since both tv's have ATSC tuners one can watch OTA while the other is watching something on the dish. We are enjoying being able to watch Dish HD programming in the kitchen and also the DVR recorded stuff in HD.

Just switching to single mode seemed way to easy to me, I thought I was missing something.

Thanks for all the info CABill.
We have a similar setup (2 HD sets on one box and no kids) and typically leave the 722 set to single / shared so that the UHF Pro remote will work when watching HD TV1 on that second display.

To the extent that you also connect the second HD set via the modulated TV2 coax connection and occassionally your wife and you want to watch different Dish programming concurrently, you can just switch back to Dual mode and continue to use that UHF Pro to change the modulated TV2.

Going one step further, you could set up an IR repeater system from the second set back to the 722, leave the 722 set on Dual mode and then just use the SAT mode on the UHF Pro to control SD TV2 and the AUX mode on the UHF Pro to control HD TV1 (after changing inputs on your second display). It keeps you from having to change from Single to Dual and vice versa on the box but does require the IR repeater system since AUX mode is IR only.

I think CABill or someone else educated me on these options recently.
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slowmo said:
To the extent that you also connect the second HD set via the modulated TV2 coax connection and occassionally your wife and you want to watch different Dish programming concurrently, you can just switch back to Dual mode and continue to use that UHF Pro to change the modulated TV2.

Going one step further, you could set up an IR repeater system from the second set back to the 722, leave the 722 set on Dual mode and then just use the SAT mode on the UHF Pro to control SD TV2 and the AUX mode on the UHF Pro to control HD TV1 (after changing inputs on your second display). It keeps you from having to change from Single to Dual and vice versa on the box but does require the IR repeater system since AUX mode is IR only.
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These are good ideas that I hadn't thought of. It's ironic that you mention a IR repeater because I actually installed one as part of the install of the component cable. The cable I used had a Cat 5 wire set in addition to having the five componet leads so I used that for the repeater. I wanted that to control my stereo receiver in the lower level from upstairs in the kitchen.

I really don't think that we are going to have any Dish watching conflicts. I didn't mention before but we also have a third HD TV in the bedroom with a dedicated 211 HD receiver. So if someone really wants to watch something different on Dish they can go in there. I also really want to watch as much HD in the kitchen as possible. I had the RF cable hooked up to the new tv for a while before I ran the new cable and the picture quality was so-so. Of course after watching HD programming SD stuff tends to pale in comparison.:)
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