The 625 does not have an OTA tuner. The HD models 622/722 etc have an OTA tuner that would allow her to record the OTA locals.
Upgrading to Dish 625 DVR
My mom has an older Dish receiver and also a single tuner Tivo Series 2 Stand Alone and gets her local channels via an OTA antenna feeding the Tivo.
If she decided to upgrade to the Dish 625 DVR (and not use the Tivio anymore) can it be fed the OTA antenna so the 625 can record both satellite channels and local channels? Or would she have to get her local channels through Dish for her to be able to do this?
If she decided to upgrade to the Dish 625 DVR (and not use the Tivio anymore) can it be fed the OTA antenna so the 625 can record both satellite channels and local channels? Or would she have to get her local channels through Dish for her to be able to do this?
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Thanks for the response! My mom currently has two older Dish receivers and gets maybe 200 channels so maybe either the HD 622 or 722 might work. If she replaces one of her older receivers (but keeps the other) how much would it cost her for one of the above DVRs?
Is she required to take out a HD package? If so is there a HD package with between 100-200 channels and do you know what it would cost?
I'm trying to get an idea how much more my mom with have to pay monthly having a HD DVR?
Is she required to take out a HD package? If so is there a HD package with between 100-200 channels and do you know what it would cost?
I'm trying to get an idea how much more my mom with have to pay monthly having a HD DVR?
About $2 per month. The DVR 622 will probably cost $100 for a DISH installed upgrade. If she kept her account as is she would have to pay a $7 HD access fee but the 622 is a dual tuner receiver so she could replace both her existing receivers with just 1 receiver. This would save the $5 fee for the second receiver,
For local channels the 622 can only tune digital channels, if your locals aren't already broadcasting with digitals it won't work for her.
For local channels the 622 can only tune digital channels, if your locals aren't already broadcasting with digitals it won't work for her.
You will have to talk to dish to find out what they will offer you, in my case, either the 625 or 622 will cost the same $100
5.98 is the monthly charge for a DVR
the basic HD add on to any package is $10 per month, or you can just pay an extra $7 per month to have an HD receiver without HD channels
so monthly you are looking at $5.98+$7 added to your bill, or $5.98+10
Either way, you are looking at a dual tuner, that can also record OTA, and can drop the Tivo service.
5.98 is the monthly charge for a DVR
the basic HD add on to any package is $10 per month, or you can just pay an extra $7 per month to have an HD receiver without HD channels
so monthly you are looking at $5.98+$7 added to your bill, or $5.98+10
Either way, you are looking at a dual tuner, that can also record OTA, and can drop the Tivo service.
All of this is assuming that the new dual-tuner receiver will be continuously plugged into a working phone line, or in the case of a ViP receiver, into an Ethernet connection to the Internet. If not, the $5/month fee is still charged.boba said:About $2 per month. The DVR 622 will probably cost $100 for a DISH installed upgrade. If she kept her account as is she would have to pay a $7 HD access fee but the 622 is a dual tuner receiver so she could replace both her existing receivers with just 1 receiver. This would save the $5 fee for the second receiver,
Get DVR advantage, they waive the DVR fee and lock in a lower price for the AT package.
BTW: In another thread it appears that the 625 is being phased out. E* wants everyone to have an MPEG-4 receiver so they can add bandwidth by dumpng MPEG-2.
BTW: In another thread it appears that the 625 is being phased out. E* wants everyone to have an MPEG-4 receiver so they can add bandwidth by dumpng MPEG-2.
Boy this is all getting pretty confusing but before I talk to Dish (and not be able to understand the person I'm talking to) I need to get a better handle on the different Dish receivers. By the way I just want to use one of the dual tuner DVRs on a single tv because using it on two tvs doesn't work for her since one of the DVR remotes would be RF and she using a MX-500 remote for each tv thus I need to keep one of her old Sat receivers. Do I understand right what each receiver can do and what the options for my mom would be:
1. To keep using her Tivo which has Lifetime service (no monthly charge) to record the OTA channels like currently being done (and later via the digital converter box once Tivo updates their software) plus getting either a 612 or 625 dual tuner DVR for receiving and recording Sat channels.
$5 for 2nd receiver
$5.98 for DRV service
$54.99 for America's Top 250 (she currently has)
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$65.97 + Tax
2. Getting either a 612 or 625 and getting the locals through Dish and then not using the Tivo.
$5 for 2nd receiver
$5.98 for DVR service
$5.99 for local channels
$54.99 for America's Top 250
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$71.96 + Tax
3. Getting a 622 or 722 and running the OTA antenna into them thus being able to record locals and Sat channels in HD. And not using the Tivo.
$5 for 2nd receiver
$5.98 for DVR service
$ 7-10 for HD service
$54.99 for America's Top 250
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$72.97 or $75.97 + Tax
Am I pretty close to what the charges would be and understanding each DVR model?
1. To keep using her Tivo which has Lifetime service (no monthly charge) to record the OTA channels like currently being done (and later via the digital converter box once Tivo updates their software) plus getting either a 612 or 625 dual tuner DVR for receiving and recording Sat channels.
$5 for 2nd receiver
$5.98 for DRV service
$54.99 for America's Top 250 (she currently has)
---------
$65.97 + Tax
2. Getting either a 612 or 625 and getting the locals through Dish and then not using the Tivo.
$5 for 2nd receiver
$5.98 for DVR service
$5.99 for local channels
$54.99 for America's Top 250
---------
$71.96 + Tax
3. Getting a 622 or 722 and running the OTA antenna into them thus being able to record locals and Sat channels in HD. And not using the Tivo.
$5 for 2nd receiver
$5.98 for DVR service
$ 7-10 for HD service
$54.99 for America's Top 250
----------
$72.97 or $75.97 + Tax
Am I pretty close to what the charges would be and understanding each DVR model?
Anyone looking at a 625 probably should be aware of this post on another thread:
IIP said:625's have been in short supply for 6-7 weeks, and we've just been informed that we are going to be substituting 622/722 receivers for them. That is official. I've also heard, but not officially, that the 625 has actually been discontinued. If so, that means that all DVRs installed from now on will be HD-DVRs.
The only stupid thing is that they are creating the work orders for us to install Dish 500s with the 722s when they don't have HD programming. Hopefully they figure out that they would be better off installing 1000.2 dishes (at least in the west), so that people who want to upgrade to HD can do so with a phone call.
Rather interesting piece of news regarding Tivo Vs Echostar as well.....
Which piece of news is that?scooper said:Rather interesting piece of news regarding Tivo Vs Echostar as well.....
625's discontinued.
I expect a 622 /722 replacement to be offered shortly.
I expect a 622 /722 replacement to be offered shortly.
Add another $5 for any dual tuner receiver unless it is connected to a phone line wether it is used on 1 tv or two.mccoady said:Boy this is all getting pretty confusing but before I talk to Dish (and not be able to understand the person I'm talking to) I need to get a better handle on the different Dish receivers. By the way I just want to use one of the dual tuner DVRs on a single tv because using it on two tvs doesn't work for her since one of the DVR remotes would be RF and she using a MX-500 remote for each tv thus I need to keep one of her old Sat receivers. Do I understand right what each receiver can do and what the options for my mom would be:
1. To keep using her Tivo which has Lifetime service (no monthly charge) to record the OTA channels like currently being done (and later via the digital converter box once Tivo updates their software) plus getting either a 612 or 625 dual tuner DVR for receiving and recording Sat channels.
$5 for 2nd receiver
$5.98 for DRV service
$54.99 for America's Top 250 (she currently has)
---------
$65.97 + Tax
2. Getting either a 612 or 625 and getting the locals through Dish and then not using the Tivo.
$5 for 2nd receiver
$5.98 for DVR service
$5.99 for local channels
$54.99 for America's Top 250
---------
$71.96 + Tax
3. Getting a 622 or 722 and running the OTA antenna into them thus being able to record locals and Sat channels in HD. And not using the Tivo.
$5 for 2nd receiver
$5.98 for DVR service
$ 7-10 for HD service
$54.99 for America's Top 250
----------
$72.97 or $75.97 + Tax
Am I pretty close to what the charges would be and understanding each DVR model?
The 612 monthly charges would be the same as the 722 charges, it is an HD receiver, but not phone line surcharge if not connected.
Ah I missed that the 612 was also a HD receiver can you also hook up a OTA antenna to it?
Going to Dish's site and checking out the different receivers there is not much information on the 612 is it basically the same as the 622 and 722 except for two things: (1) the 612 can only be used with a single tv whereas the 622 and 722 give you the option of using them with two tvs (2) different recording capacities?
If you were deciding between the 612, 622, and 722 and knew you were only going to connect the receiver to one tv should price and recording capacity be the only thing you should consider?
I haven't seen the 612 mentioned much when talking about HD receivers how come?
Going to Dish's site and checking out the different receivers there is not much information on the 612 is it basically the same as the 622 and 722 except for two things: (1) the 612 can only be used with a single tv whereas the 622 and 722 give you the option of using them with two tvs (2) different recording capacities?
If you were deciding between the 612, 622, and 722 and knew you were only going to connect the receiver to one tv should price and recording capacity be the only thing you should consider?
I haven't seen the 612 mentioned much when talking about HD receivers how come?
Will the $5 fee still be charged for using an HD receiver on a non HD subscription level?Originally Posted by IIP said:625's have been in short supply for 6-7 weeks, and we've just been informed that we are going to be substituting 622/722 receivers for them. That is official. I've also heard, but not officially, that the 625 has actually been discontinued. If so, that means that all DVRs installed from now on will be HD-DVRs.
The only stupid thing is that they are creating the work orders for us to install Dish 500s with the 722s when they don't have HD programming. Hopefully they figure out that they would be better off installing 1000.2 dishes (at least in the west), so that people who want to upgrade to HD can do so with a phone cal:
The HD enabling fee has been waived under certain circumstances. In my case it was waived because I originally had a 921 which did not have the fee, and due to problems I kept getting replacement units until one day a 622 showed up on my doorstep.findwaldo said:Will the $5 fee still be charged for using an HD receiver on a non HD subscription level?
I do not have an HDTV yet, but did already have a 61.5 dish (I had a "lifetime" Sky Angel subscription but they decided to dump satellite and lifetime subs for IPTV). So without subbing to any HD programming, I still get my Cleveland locals in HD both via dish and OTA, as well as Indians baseball games from FSN Ohio (just the games - even though FSN Ohio is HD 24/7 so far E* only carried the games in HD).
Michael P said:The HD enabling fee has been waived under certain circumstances. In my case it was waived because I originally had a 921 which did not have the fee, and due to problems I kept getting replacement units until one day a 622 showed up on my doorstep.
O.K. Here's the real story on the HD enabling fee. It is waived mainly in two cases. The first is someone with an 811/921/942 that is upgraded to a 211/622 receiver due to the others being discontinued. If the customer had no HD programming to begin with, Dish will waive the HD enabling fee. I'm assuming that's what happened here. The second is one that just came out and only affects a percentage of new installs. Since the 625 is in such short supply right now, corporate decided to modify existing new connects to a 722 w/o the fee so those customers could be installed.
anyone know what the actual status is on the 625s? Possibilities that come to mind are: that it's being dropped, in favor of mpeg4 capable models, (and maybe the non-dvr SD models going away soon?) or dropped due to the ongoing court actions or it's just a temporary shortage, regional or national?cg7879 said:O.K. Here's the real story on the HD enabling fee. It is waived mainly in two cases. The first is someone with an 811/921/942 that is upgraded to a 211/622 receiver due to the others being discontinued. If the customer had no HD programming to begin with, Dish will waive the HD enabling fee. I'm assuming that's what happened here. The second is one that just came out and only affects a percentage of new installs. Since the 625 is in such short supply right now, corporate decided to modify existing new connects to a 722 w/o the fee so those customers could be installed.
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