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using 30in dish for 129

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I have a dish 1000.2 and i have nothing but problems with 129. my locals are ok usually its all the other HD channels that go out everytime it gets cloudy or rainy or anything.

So i was thinking i could mount a 30in dish or maybe i could complain enough and get dish to do it. But anyway mount a 30in dish next to the 1000.2.

Is this possible and how would i hook it up?

Thanks
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Cover LNBF "129" by any metal cap ( part of Pepsi can will works too) and connect new DP [only DP type] LNBF from 30" dish to IN port of the D1K2.
Well thats easy enough. But i have to use DPP correct? or just DP?
Insist on getting a 1000.4. Your problems will end. I had same, and cursed 129 all the time. 1000.4 is larger and more stable and reception is great in all kinds of weather.
ibooksrule said:
Well thats easy enough. But i have to use DPP correct? or just DP?
A DP LNB will work just fine.
dewey brunner said:
Insist on getting a 1000.4. Your problems will end. I had same, and cursed 129 all the time. 1000.4 is larger and more stable and reception is great in all kinds of weather.
While the 1000.4 will fix the problem for his national HD channels (he will get them from 61.5 with a 1000.4) he may not be able to get locals and his RSN.

I wish that people would wait before recommending a 1000.4 until DISH gets a satellite at 77 degrees and we see what locals are put on that satellite or the other two slots (72.7 and 61.5).
ibooksrule said:
Well thats easy enough. But i have to use DPP correct? or just DP?
I don't recall any single DPP LNBF. Is it exist or ?
My locals are on 129. So the 1000.4 if its 61.5 for HD it wont work.

I would love to just have one dish it would be nicer but its not possible then i guess
Correct, while the 1000.4 is indeed larger, it is designed specifically for Eastern Arc. The LNB spacing is different than the 1000/1000.2 so it won't work for 110/119/129.
P Smith said:
I don't recall any single DPP LNBF. Is it exist or ?
No such thing, though the term is commonly used.

LNB = Low Noise Block (Converter), it's what picks up the signal from one satellite
DPP = DishPro Plus. DPP is a switching protocol that can selectively stack a part of the signals from 2 satellites onto a single line, then separate them at the dual-tuner receiver

Since an LNB only gets 1 sat, it of course does not contain a switch. When people say "DPP LNB" they usually mean the DPP Twin which is actually _2_ DP LNBs and an integrated switch. It just gets incorrectly referred to as "an" LNB because it's one piece of equipment and goes on the business end of the dish arm.

Short answer: ibooksrule needs a DP Dual (or DP Single if one can be found) to feed the DPP switch in the 1000.2.
My HD locals are received directly from 61.5 on my 1000.4. These are major network stations NBC<ABC<FOX<CBS. If you subscribe for locals on Dish you get the local guide information only . 72 lnb on the 1000.4 receives all the programming that I use to get on 110 and 119 and the troublesome, 129.. All on one antenna.. I no longer have a 44 switch. I operate three HD televisions straight off the 1000.4
as far as i know Kansas city HD locals are on 129. I could be wrong.
You're right, they are only on 129.
i saw a map of the eastern ark and we are inside it. To bad we cant get locals on 61.5 or something then i could get rid of 129 forever
Boba, I guess you posted that info not for me, or I'll correct you - just LNB term doesn't applicable for pizza dishes, the setup have LNBF, eg LNB and Feedhorn as one piece in opposite of C-Band setups.
Regardless of count - one or two or three in one block, they are still LNBF.
P Smith said:
I don't recall any single DPP LNBF. Is it exist or ?
Yes; I've got a single laying on my desk right in front of me. I ordered a 500+ lnb assembly to pick up 118.7 and was suprised to see that the wing lnb for 110 that came with the kit was a single. I like the doubles since I can hook up a scope on the other side without touching the receiver cabling.
Single/Double [OUTPUT] DP LNBF - that's it; no "DPP LNBF" alone any kind exist, so far;
using designator "DPP" start from TWIN or TRIPLE/QUAD config, what is include internal DPP switch ( as Boba already mentioned).
As to second output - you are not alone, some ppl have spectrum analyzers too ;).
Bill R said:
While the 1000.4 will fix the problem for his national HD channels (he will get them from 61.5 with a 1000.4) he may not be able to get locals and his RSN.

I wish that people would wait before recommending a 1000.4 until DISH gets a satellite at 77 degrees and we see what locals are put on that satellite or the other two slots (72.7 and 61.5).
Also, if you have a 1000.4 dish, you must have ALL MPEG4 receivers AND those receivers must have the new purple access cards. This is why 1000.4 dishes are currently only being installed for NEW customers in the appropriate DMAs.

I totally agree that many folks are recommending the 1000.4 dish to people who will not be able to use it, and who don't understand the limitations it imposes.
i have a 722 and will install another 722 in january most likely so i have the mpeg 4 receivers but unless they plan on moving KC locals to 61.5 which i dont see happening at least not anytime soon.

i read somewhere they are replacing the 129 satellite with a newer one that will be much better so maybe that will help.

I still think you cant go wrong with a bigger dish.
Got another question.

Is it possible to take 36in dish and make it able to see 110 and 119?

Also when the installer came out he told me that if you get paperless billing you can just say you moved to another city and you can give some address there and have locals turned on there. i was thinking of doing that to get a better dish but then i guess i would have to have dish come out and that wouldnt work. but for the sake of locals can you actually do that?

The installer also was saying that if i had issues with 129 if you get the right CSR you can complain and have them bring you out a bigger dish. But he said the problem usually is that dish just puts on upgrade dish and the installer just brings out a 20in dish and not a bigger dish.

Has anyone actually tried this or gotten dish to put up a bigger dish?
I did set of five LNBFs with 39" dish [119/110/105/101/95] ( sort of DISH/DTV combo), it works fine, but PITA to hold each LNBF at right spot; marginal result had with old SD105 LNBF's holder and strapped two additional LNBFs.
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