VoDs are recorded via satellite, probably in the wee hours of the night. The ViPs have HDD space allotted for these types of things. When you order, it "unlocks" that video for instant watching. Ethernet has nothing to do with it.
VOD (Ethernet vs. Satellite Download?)
Does anybody know how VOD videos are downloaded to Dish Network receivers? Do they come via the satellites (110, 119, and/or 129) or are they downloaded through internet connection? Also--are those downloaded automatically or do you actually have to order them before they are downloaded?
I have a ViP622 hooked up through Ethernet connection. I also have Internet service via Wildblue (signed up through Dish Network's partnership deal). The ViP622 has been hooked up to the internet for the periodic 'dial-ins' ever since that feature was available.
My upload/download limits (for Wildblue) have always ranged in the 45-55% of limit ever since we got WB service over 1 1/2 years ago. However, less than 48 hours after the new software release to the ViP622 that allowed for VOD downloads, I received an e-mail stating that my download/upload (aka "FAP") limit for WB was about to be exceeded. I went and checked my status and it was spiked up to 97%. Yikes! WTF?!
I called DishNetwork and got an idiot the first time around. Long story short, her answers eventually got to (literally!), "We don't know. Nobody knows." She kept telling me to call Wildblue to ask them--even though I have no service with them directly. Anyways... Rather than calling them after I hung up with her, I did a conference call with her with Wildblue customer support. (FYI--If you ever want to freak out a CSR, just do a conference call with another company. "Um sir! Sir! I can't talk with them on the line! Sir! Sir!... I can't do this" (as I'm pressing the numbers to route to WB's technical support.. Yeah, but you're not allowed to hang up either!) Anyways... That got nowhere as expected. Wildblue had no information about my account since it was through DN.
This morning I tried DN support again and got a much more knowledgeable rep. She said that some VOD downloads through internet but not until it's ordered. Can anybody confirm that?
Because of the download/upload limits, I had disabled auto-updates on all our computers so they were not downloading huge updates, etc. Our browsing / e-mail checking habits have not changed. I checked wireless settings to ensure everything is secure. Virus scans are all up-to-date, nothing found. Kid is not old enough to climb into the chair at the computer (much less operate it) so that's not the issue.
Just trying to figure out where this double-in-usage came from.
Any knowledge, suggestions or ideas would be greatly appreciated to help me find the culprit(s).
--Ted
I have a ViP622 hooked up through Ethernet connection. I also have Internet service via Wildblue (signed up through Dish Network's partnership deal). The ViP622 has been hooked up to the internet for the periodic 'dial-ins' ever since that feature was available.
My upload/download limits (for Wildblue) have always ranged in the 45-55% of limit ever since we got WB service over 1 1/2 years ago. However, less than 48 hours after the new software release to the ViP622 that allowed for VOD downloads, I received an e-mail stating that my download/upload (aka "FAP") limit for WB was about to be exceeded. I went and checked my status and it was spiked up to 97%. Yikes! WTF?!
I called DishNetwork and got an idiot the first time around. Long story short, her answers eventually got to (literally!), "We don't know. Nobody knows." She kept telling me to call Wildblue to ask them--even though I have no service with them directly. Anyways... Rather than calling them after I hung up with her, I did a conference call with her with Wildblue customer support. (FYI--If you ever want to freak out a CSR, just do a conference call with another company. "Um sir! Sir! I can't talk with them on the line! Sir! Sir!... I can't do this" (as I'm pressing the numbers to route to WB's technical support.. Yeah, but you're not allowed to hang up either!) Anyways... That got nowhere as expected. Wildblue had no information about my account since it was through DN.
This morning I tried DN support again and got a much more knowledgeable rep. She said that some VOD downloads through internet but not until it's ordered. Can anybody confirm that?
Because of the download/upload limits, I had disabled auto-updates on all our computers so they were not downloading huge updates, etc. Our browsing / e-mail checking habits have not changed. I checked wireless settings to ensure everything is secure. Virus scans are all up-to-date, nothing found. Kid is not old enough to climb into the chair at the computer (much less operate it) so that's not the issue.
Just trying to figure out where this double-in-usage came from.
Any knowledge, suggestions or ideas would be greatly appreciated to help me find the culprit(s).
--Ted
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How about DishONLINE?Taco Lover said:V ... Ethernet has nothing to do with it.
Not too familiar. Is that Video On Demand? Or do you have to download first?SaltiDawg said:How about DishONLINE?
DishONLINE is "download first" and would really mess up your internet budget (if you have a limited connection).Taco Lover said:Not too familiar. Is that Video On Demand? Or do you have to download first?
Push the DVR button once and select #5 DishONLINETaco Lover said:Not too familiar. Is that Video On Demand? Or do you have to download first?
VoD is via satellite
DishONLINE is via ethernet connection
DishONLINE is via ethernet connection
Perhaps you didn't understand James' reply.SaltiDawg said:Push the DVR button once and select #5 DishONLINE
When you select a DishONLINE event, the download begins at the time you confirm the purchase.
They are downloaded via Ethernet.
Once the download reaches 5%, the movie becomes available for viewing, and the remaining download is buffered, so it is ready as you progress through the event.
Without a fairly fast Ethernet connection (3mgbt or higher), the download can take some time to complete. A message will pop-up when there is enough buffered for viewing to begin. Downloads of this type are also faster when the ViP is connected to the router via hard-wire, as opposed to wireless.
One of the main differences between DishONLINE and VOD events is, DishONLINE events are recorded to the user accessible portion of your drive. The can be downloaded through the night, and remain available to view at a later date. VOD events are already on the partitioned, non-user area of your drive, and must be viewed within 24 hours.
Right. I meant 'not familiar' as in 'I never use it, but I know it's rent by download'.SaltiDawg said:Push the DVR button once and select #5 DishONLINE
Perhaps you didn't understand my post.Ken Green said:Perhaps you didn't understand James' reply.
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So If I understand correctly:
VoD is via the satellite
DishONLINE is via the internet
I have never ordered VoD or any DishONLINE content... But it sounds like, from what James Long is saying, that the content would have been downloaded to my receiver--even if I did NOT order it? ...but Ken's Green's comment sounds like the content is not downloaded until the user selects the program for viewing.
This would make a difference! I'm sure if I called Dish I would get both answers...
Maybe a ceo e-mail will clarify...
VoD is via the satellite
DishONLINE is via the internet
I have never ordered VoD or any DishONLINE content... But it sounds like, from what James Long is saying, that the content would have been downloaded to my receiver--even if I did NOT order it? ...but Ken's Green's comment sounds like the content is not downloaded until the user selects the program for viewing.
This would make a difference! I'm sure if I called Dish I would get both answers...
Maybe a ceo e-mail will clarify...
VOD content is forced in advance to your receiver via satellite.
DishONLINE content comes ONLY upon request of the customer via the internet.
DishONLINE content comes ONLY upon request of the customer via the internet.
I believe that when you go into the Dishonline screens and view the list of available movies to rent from any of the three types, it downloads the list over the Internet. That would not be a *lot* of traffic unless you spend a good deal of time paging through the lists, but it will generate some Internet activity without ordering a program. But, that still requires an action on your part to display the lists.
Yes and Yes. Except you only need one powerline adapter plugged in close to your router and connected to the router with an Ethernet cable. The receiver has a powerline adapter built into it.
Be aware however of a restriction when using the powerline (Homeplug) facility. In order to use the adapter built in to the receiver you must plug the receiver directly into the wall outlet. You can't use a power strip (unless it has a special outlet built specifically for powerline devices) or a UPS.
Be aware however of a restriction when using the powerline (Homeplug) facility. In order to use the adapter built in to the receiver you must plug the receiver directly into the wall outlet. You can't use a power strip (unless it has a special outlet built specifically for powerline devices) or a UPS.
Sorry Chuck, I posted here, but then deleted when I realized I had posted to the wrong topic. Wow, you're fast!ChuckA said:Yes and Yes. Except you only need one powerline adapter plugged in close to your router and connected to the router with an Ethernet cable. The receiver has a powerline adapter built into it.
Be aware however of a restriction when using the powerline (Homeplug) facility. In order to use the adapter built in to the receiver you must plug the receiver directly into the wall outlet. You can't use a power strip (unless it has a special outlet built specifically for powerline devices) or a UPS.
Thanks for the clarification James.
You're right Chuck, it does generate some internet activity but not a lot by just browsing to see which movies are available (and NOT ordering anything).
My Wildblue bandwidth allows for 7.5GB over the past 30 days. It is constantly rolling--aka 'dropping off' day 31 every 24 hours.
I'm just trying to isolate where all this usage is coming from all of the sudden. Like I mentioned before, I've had WB service for some time and never came anywhere close to the limit. When VoD and all those features came up with DishNetwork seems to be just a conincidence based on this discussion. Of course, at first I was highly suspect of the ViP622 causing the download limit to nearly be exceeded since it occured within 48 hours of VoD becoming available.
Geeez... Now I gotta do more investigation.
Thanks again to all for the suggestions / feedback. It helps.
You're right Chuck, it does generate some internet activity but not a lot by just browsing to see which movies are available (and NOT ordering anything).
My Wildblue bandwidth allows for 7.5GB over the past 30 days. It is constantly rolling--aka 'dropping off' day 31 every 24 hours.
I'm just trying to isolate where all this usage is coming from all of the sudden. Like I mentioned before, I've had WB service for some time and never came anywhere close to the limit. When VoD and all those features came up with DishNetwork seems to be just a conincidence based on this discussion. Of course, at first I was highly suspect of the ViP622 causing the download limit to nearly be exceeded since it occured within 48 hours of VoD becoming available.
Geeez... Now I gotta do more investigation.
Thanks again to all for the suggestions / feedback. It helps.
Now you're starting to sound like my wife.nostalgiaguru said:Wow, you're fast!
just a small follow-up since I'm new to this and couldn't find the answer.
I saw last night, via the 722, that 10000 BC is now being offered in 1080P. The price was $1.99.
It said it was a 24-hour rental. Does that mean I can't record it to keep, and that after 24 hours, it's just gone, gone, gone?
I saw last night, via the 722, that 10000 BC is now being offered in 1080P. The price was $1.99.
It said it was a 24-hour rental. Does that mean I can't record it to keep, and that after 24 hours, it's just gone, gone, gone?
That's interesting. The last time I checked, it was $2.99. I believe that is correct, you have to watch it within 24 hours. I might try this weekend.nostalgiaguru said:just a small follow-up since I'm new to this and couldn't find the answer.
I saw last night, via the 722, that 10000 BC is now being offered in 1080P. The price was $1.99.
It said it was a 24-hour rental. Does that mean I can't record it to keep, and that after 24 hours, it's just gone, gone, gone?
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