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I was having pixelation on my non-OTA HD channels so I called customer service to see what could be the problem. Oddly, the pixelation seemed to occur during instant replays on sports channels but not during regular play. The customer service person told me they reactivated my account and if that didn't help to call back. That didn't help at all so I called back. The CSR didn't know what the problem could be and told me to reset my box and call back if the problem didn't go away. So I did that and called back. Next they told me I could either schedule a $79 service call or sign up for the protection plan and have someone come out to fix my problem. I told them I wanted the third option of just canceling my HD package. But then I was told that if I did that I would have to get an SD box since an HD package was required to have the HD box. That made me mad because the reason I went with DirecTV 2 yrs ago was so that I could have an HD box and pick up OTA channels without an HD package. The CSR told me there was nothing they could do about it so I told them I would cancel my service. When I was switched to another person to cancel they told me they didn't want me to cancel and would schedule a service call for free to fix my problem. I said OK. So, the service person comes while I am at work. My wife calls me at work and tells me we have a new black box because the old one was faulty. I asked her the model and she told me H23. So, I called up DirecTV and told them I need a box that gives me OTA since some of my DirecTV does not have some of my local channels in HD. The CSR told me that with the new box I couldn't get OTA. I told her that the reason I went with DirecTV was because I could pick up my local HD channels OTA without having an HD package. She told me that I had HD channels already. I asked her if I had PBS or WB and she said no. Finally I got tired of talking to her and asked to talk to someone else. She said everyone else would tell me the same thing. So I told her that unless someone figures something out so I can get all my local HD channels like I did before they "fixed" my problem I was just going to cancel the whole service. So, I got transfered again to another person. I explained my problem and was told that they would send me an AM21 box or something like that for free so I could get my HD OTA channels. I said OK.

In the end, I got what I wanted. But why does DirecTV jerk you around so much to begin with? If I had just went with what they said, I would have paid $79 for them to replace my defective H20 with an H23 and would have lost a couple local HD channels. And even if I didn't fight some more I would have had to pay an additional $50 for the AM21 box to receive those channels. That comes to a total of $149 just for them to fix their crappy equipment to the same level of service I had before.

Bottom line, if you have problems and you don't think it is your fault then don't cave in. Make them pay for it and make them fix it to your satisfaction.
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I thought the AM21 doesn't work with the H series boxes?

I thought they only work with the HR21/HR22 because these don't have the OTA tuner.

The reason behind it is because your TV, can in most cases, has the tuner already and the H series receivers don't have DVR capability so why have the tuner on the receiver when the TV does just fine with the OTA.

And while I write this I kinda agree with it, the TV tuner should work just fine BUT I know what you will say.... some HDTV's are made without a tuner and then you need one but they are few and far between now.
webby_s said:
I thought the AM21 doesn't work with the H series boxes?

I thought they only work with the HR21/HR22 because these don't have the OTA tuner.

The reason behind it is because your TV, can in most cases, has the tuner already and the H series receivers don't have DVR capability so why have the tuner on the receiver when the TV does just fine with the OTA.

And while I write this I kinda agree with it, the TV tuner should work just fine BUT I know what you will say.... some HDTV's are made without a tuner and then you need one but they are few and far between now.
Maybe so you will have the Guide and Autotune capability, and won't have to change TV inputs when viewing locals?
paulman182 said:
Maybe so you will have the Guide and Autotune capability, and won't have to change TV inputs when viewing locals?
Speaking for myself (obviously) I change TV inputs all the time (2 HR's and an H while recording more then 3 things at once during primetime)

Also, and someone will have to chime in, I am almost curtain that the AM21 doesn't work with the H series. So it's just the way it is. You will have to change inputs.
everything I've read also says am21 will not work with h21/22 and only hr21/22 (dvr's in other words) as of this month. I guess the consensus is that since you can't record the ota signal there is no sense even introducing it.
not sure I agree, but guess some are stuck with it. ironic that h20 allowed ota hookup (like hr20) but its odd the h21 does not work with am21...
If anything ever resembled Russian Roulette, it's dealing with CSR's. The other day my HD locals disappeared. I got a guy on the phone who was more than helpful, and when he couldn't fix the problem (it was only Directv switching Charlotte HD locals to the new sat) he suggested a repair visit. He then told me that you get one free repair visit per year so he credited my account for the amount it would have cost for the tech to come out (79 bucks). Long story short, save yourself some money. Forego the service contract. And ask for Thaddeus next time you have a problem ;)
It does seem like only the “retention” CSR’s can ever truly solve any problems. D* should save themselves a lot of money and get rid of all front-line CSR’s and replace them with an automated voice-response system that knows how to tell customers how to do an RBR, a disk reformat, and schedule a $79 service visit. Any requests for change sin service should be done via the website (or, better yet, interactively on the receivers).

Oh, and by the way, this isn’t “weird” service – it is actually quite normal. :p
rudeney said:
It does seem like only the "retention" CSR's can ever truly solve any problems.
After working within this very system, I can tell you it's because only those that are the best at what they do are allowed near the comps that retention has available.

That being said, I left the organization over inaction by my team lead for a $50 OTA antenna. She flat out refused to get the tech out to install it after the customer had already paid for it. Her excuse? "He signed off on the work order".:nono2:
rudeney said:
It does seem like only the "retention" CSR's can ever truly solve any problems.
I couldn't help but respond. I am a very long time D* customer, almost since the beginniing. I have almost never had a good outcome speaking with a CSR. Also, in my experience, if a CSR ever has anything to do with a bill, it will be messed up. I literally dread talking to them about anything related to billing.

Retention on the other hand has been just great - if you can get through to them.
So from what he wrote here retention csr is sending him an AM21 for a H23 receiver

Wow if that was the resolution i think i actually predict a future of him on the phone again
naijai said:
So from what he wrote here retention csr is sending him an AM21 for a H23 receiver
my take is the same, wonder how that will work ...
People think retention CSRs are great because they have higher comp limits and give away freebies such as service calls, receivers and programming, even though by all rights a good portion of the time the customer should be paying for it. Not that they can actually fix something.

Maybe retention should be renamed Entitlement.
RobertE said:
People think retention CSRs are great because they have higher comp limits and give away freebies such as service calls, receivers and programming, even though by all rights a good portion of the time the customer should be paying for it. Not that they can actually fix something.

Maybe retention should be renamed Entitlement.
+1
I have watched regular CSR do just about anything a retention specialist can do and even heard of one work around their supervisors credit cap. Retention does have special abilities and authorizations but that's about it. A regular CSR can often comp you all the same stuff retention can, they are just less liable to do so if you dont meet the limitations of an offer because they could get in trouble for it, retention is able to flex rules a little more.
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