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SeaBeagle said:
I just purchased me a Windows 8.1 computer and during setup I was asked them to reserve Windows 10. Now that is faster than fast.
Every time I power up the laptop I bought off Craigslist for $85 and acquired in a parking lot rendezvous, Microsoft asks me to pay them $119 to make the Windows 7 upgrade software legal.
 

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Every time I power up the laptop I bought off Craigslist for $85 and acquired in a parking lot rendezvous, Microsoft asks me to pay them $119 to make the Windows 7 upgrade software legal.
That might be a virus / Trojan , etc. If I remember correctly Microsoft never asks you for money. They just tell you that your software is illegal and then does not run.
 

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Every time I power up the laptop I bought off Craigslist for $85 and acquired in a parking lot rendezvous, Microsoft asks me to pay them $119 to make the Windows 7 upgrade software legal.
Too funny.....

Microsoft did confirm they would not give free upgrades of Windows 10 to pirated copies of windows. Not say'n yours is pirated....

Just curious, how much for the Rolix watches in that parking lot?
 

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Every time I power up the laptop I bought off Craigslist for $85 and acquired in a parking lot rendezvous, Microsoft asks me to pay them $119 to make the Windows 7 upgrade software legal.
Take a look at this site.
http://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/microsoft-says-my-windows-7-is-pirated-now-what-am-i-suppose-to-do-now-588049/
It is a forum and there are many ideas there to fix it. Having said that, none of them mentioned money.

Link to Microsoft with discussions about legal Windows 7.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_install/windows-7-build-7601-this-copy-of-windows-is-not/0ab53d5f-4931-4b84-bdf4-05616edcb7ee?auth=1
 

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Actually, it didn't start displaying that message until I swapped some hard drives between computers, but it isn't inhibiting me from doing anything. My hunch is that the computer came with a Vista operating system, so either the previous owner did an unauthorized upgrade, or, once I switched drives, there was some detection that took place as the drive with the legal Windows 7 might interact on power-up with the BIOS of the HP G60 that was purchased with pre-installed Vista

One thing that pisses me off is that several years ago, when I bought a laptop from Best Buy, I paid an extra $300 to upgrade to whatever Microsoft calls its premium business package, and when that computer bit the dust two months later and I got rid of it, Microsoft won't let me use that same upgrade disk for my current computer because the $300 was a discounted price that attached to use with that computer only. Maybe there is a way to work around that restriction but I don't have the time to screw with it, since it just isn't that important to me.
 

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Actually, it didn't start displaying that message until I swapped some hard drives between computers, but it isn't inhibiting me from doing anything.

One thing that pisses me off is that several years ago, when I bought a laptop from Best Buy, I paid an extra $300 to upgrade to whatever Microsoft calls its premium business package, and when that computer bit the dust two months later and I got rid of it, Microsoft won't let me use that same upgrade disk for my current computer because the $300 was a discounted price that attached to use with that computer only.

Maybe there is a way to work around that restriction but I don't have the time to screw with it, since it just isn't that important to me.
Swapping the drives would do it. For some reason the software makes a list of the devices on / in the machine and it is part of the authentication.
I think if you call Microsoft and tell them you uninstalled the original software and put it on this drive they can fix it.
If it is several years old you probably would be better off getting a new machine.
 

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I seem to remember Microsoft linking to a website to ask for $135 when I had a couple of "non-genuine" XPs at work (purchased by a co worker). There were several steps from the error message to the payment screen ... not the usual "virus pop up" type of ask for money. And it was a legitimate way of making the copy legal.

I have not had experience with illegitimate copies of anything newer than XP. The "don't change too much hardware" issue has been there since XP. Microsoft makes it easier to buy another license than make an old license work.
 

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AntAltMike said:
Actually, it didn't start displaying that message until I swapped some hard drives between computers, but it isn't inhibiting me from doing anything. My hunch is that the computer came with a Vista operating system, so either the previous owner did an unauthorized upgrade, or, once I switched drives, there was some detection that took place as the drive with the legal Windows 7 might interact with the BIOS on power-up

One thing that pisses me off is that several years ago, when I bought a laptop from Best Buy, I paid an extra $300 to upgrade to whatever Microsoft calls its premium business package, and when that computer bit the dust two months later and I got rid of it, Microsoft won't let me use that same upgrade disk for my current computer because the $300 was a discounted price that attached to use with that computer only. Maybe there is a way to work around that restriction but I don't have the time to screw with it, since it just isn't that important to me.
They can be a real PITA to deal with. My wife went to Seattle to work with them concerning a license agreement between MS and her company. They gave her lots of goodies (it was a multi-million dollar deal) and one of them was a package containing the whole latest MS Office suite. The deal never went thru and they won't recognize the Office code number now. Sour grapes.

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Anyone receiving the Windows 10 download should make sure all programs on your PC are compatible with Windows 10 before installing.
Best advice so far.

It's for this very reason that rushing to upgrade is not prudent for most folks - you have a year.

The biggest hiccups early on will likely come from shortcomings of drivers for various hardware, including printers, monitors, cameras, video cams, etc. Individual companies will be updating their drivers over time...but only a limited number will have Win 10 supported day one.

Another consideration is the change to Windows Edge (from Internet Explorer earlier versions). For those using Chrome or something else...there still may be some "hiccups" in the beginning days or weeks after Win 10 is available (end of this month).

Bottom line...few pros and more cons to being "first on your block" to have Win 10 installed.
 

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My hunch is that the computer came with a Vista operating system, so either the previous owner did an unauthorized upgrade, or, once I switched drives, there was some detection that took place as the drive with the legal Windows 7 might interact with the BIOS on power-up
That could be a problem if they used an OEM activation, computers designed for Vista usually have SLIC 2.0 while Windows 7 requires SLIC 2.1, while Windows 8 abandoned SLIC in favor of MSDM where the product key for the specific edition that came with your computer is embedded in the BIOS.

Also there can be problems if you swap hard drives between manufacturers. (i.e. take a Windows OEM installation from a Dell PC and put the hard drive in an HP PC)
 

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Best advice so far.

It's for this very reason that rushing to upgrade is not prudent for most folks - you have a year.

The biggest hiccups early on will likely come from shortcomings of drivers for various hardware, including printers, monitors, cameras, video cams, etc. Individual companies will be updating their drivers over time...but only a limited number will have Win 10 supported day one.

Another consideration is the change to Windows Edge (from Internet Explorer earlier versions). For those using Chrome or something else...there still may be some "hiccups" in the beginning days or weeks after Win 10 is available (end of this month).

Bottom line...few pros and more cons to being "first on your block" to have Win 10 installed.
True, like updating a iPhone to a newer version. Always better to wait. I will wait about a month before I update my computer to 10.

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Fortunately, I think at least the majority of software and hardware that works on 8 will work on 10, except for the few systems that were incompatible with 8.1. On that side, it's not as big of a change as going from XP to Vista.

I know that there were AMD driver issues during the preview, but they worked those out a while ago. Of course not all companies do that.

I think third party antivirus will be a potential issue until there are updates for it.
 

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Fortunately, I think at least the majority of software and hardware that works on 8 will work on 10, except for the few systems that were incompatible with 8.1. On that side, it's not as big of a change as going from XP to Vista.

I know that there were AMD driver issues during the preview, but they worked those out a while ago. Of course not all companies do that.

I think third party antivirus will be a potential issue until there are updates for it.
I use System Mechanic Professional. Back in May they had a survey asking if you were going to upgrade to Windows 10. A few days ago I received a message stating they will be upgrading the current version to a new one that will be compatible with Windows 10.
 

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hdtvfan0001 said:
Best advice so far.

It's for this very reason that rushing to upgrade is not prudent for most folks - you have a year.

The biggest hiccups early on will likely come from shortcomings of drivers for various hardware, including printers, monitors, cameras, video cams, etc. Individual companies will be updating their drivers over time...but only a limited number will have Win 10 supported day one.

Another consideration is the change to Windows Edge (from Internet Explorer earlier versions). For those using Chrome or something else...there still may be some "hiccups" in the beginning days or weeks after Win 10 is available (end of this month).

Bottom line...few pros and more cons to being "first on your block" to have Win 10 installed.
Yup, and factoring in my lack of luck... I'll be waiting for someone to tell me it's safe.

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That could be a problem if they used an OEM activation, computers designed for Vista usually have SLIC 2.0 while Windows 7 requires SLIC 2.1, while Windows 8 abandoned SLIC in favor of MSDM where the product key for the specific edition that came with your computer is embedded in the BIOS.

Also there can be problems if you swap hard drives between manufacturers. (i.e. take a Windows OEM installation from a Dell PC and put the hard drive in an HP PC)
I read your posts and all I can think of is how ignorant I am. My own fault for just using computers instead of learning how they work.

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Fortunately, I think at least the majority of software and hardware that works on 8 will work on 10, except for the few systems that were incompatible with 8.1. On that side, it's not as big of a change as going from XP to Vista.

I know that there were AMD driver issues during the preview, but they worked those out a while ago. Of course not all companies do that.

I think third party antivirus will be a potential issue until there are updates for it.
This makes me feel a lot better about the whole thing. Best part is, I don't use my computers for anything other than as portals to the Net. I'll still wait until someone (like you) tells me to go ahead and do it.

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I use System Mechanic Professional. Back in May they had a survey asking if you were going to upgrade to Windows 10. A few days ago I received a message stating they will be upgrading the current version to a new one that will be compatible with Windows 10.
I am so out of my depth here. Just looked that up. I didn't know programs like that existed.

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I run reg System Mech (without) the Virus protection as I get NORTON (FREE) LOL! included with the price of my ISP (comcast) so I use it. Asfar as windows 10 - All my win7 PC's are offering to upgrade now (with the flagg notice) however - There may some driver issue's as always in the begining -and with Windows media center DOA in Win10 - I'll wait and use win7 till the end of it's life and thing should have been worked out by that time for 10 as they will be pushing Win14 by then.
 
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