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Try this one, there is a changed error level.

REG QUERY "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\UpgradeExperienceIndicators" /v UpgEx | findstr UpgEx
if "%errorlevel%" == "0" GOTO RunGWX
reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Appraiser" /v UtcOnetimeSend /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f
schtasks /run /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser"
:CompatCheckRunning
schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser"
schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready
if NOT "%errorlevel%" == "1" ping localhost >nul &goto :CompatCheckRunning
:RunGWX
schtasks /run /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Setup\gwx\refreshgwxconfig"
 

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This may also work

  1. Open the Control Panel, choose Administrative Tools, and then fire up the Task Scheduler.
  2. Expand Task Scheduler Library, then Microsoft, then Windows, and finally scroll down to expand Setup.
  3. Click the folder GWXTriggers and on the far right hit Run.
 

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Steve said:
Checked update history and it shows I have both the requisite win 7 windows updates. Funny thing is KB2952664 didn't come until I forced a Windows update tonite (before I ran GWX.exe, BTW), so I wonder if they aren't staggering them. I got the other one yesterday.

I ran that batch file and it appears to be looping, however.

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser"

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser 6/3/2015 3:45:56 AM Running

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready

C:\temp>if NOT "1" == "0" ping localhost 1>nul & goto :CompatCheckRunning

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser"

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser 6/3/2015 4:07:31 AM Running

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready

C:\temp>if NOT "1" == "0" ping localhost 1>nul & goto :CompatCheckRunning

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser"

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser 6/3/2015 3:42:48 AM Running

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready

C:\temp>if NOT "1" == "0" ping localhost 1>nul & goto :CompatCheckRunning

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser"

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser 6/3/2015 4:58:50 AM Running

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready

C:\temp>if NOT "1" == "0" ping localhost 1>nul & goto :CompatCheckRunning

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser"

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser 6/3/2015 3:55:27 AM Running

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready

C:\temp>if NOT "1" == "0" ping localhost 1>nul & goto :CompatCheckRunning

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser"

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser 6/3/2015 3:37:16 AM Running

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready

C:\temp>if NOT "1" == "0" ping localhost 1>nul & goto :CompatCheckRunning

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser"

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser 6/3/2015 4:55:52 AM Running

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready

C:\temp>if NOT "1" == "0" ping localhost 1>nul & goto :CompatCheckRunning

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser"

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser 6/3/2015 3:15:55 AM Running

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready

C:\temp>if NOT "1" == "0" ping localhost 1>nul & goto :CompatCheckRunning

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser"

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser 6/3/2015 4:38:15 AM Running

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready

C:\temp>if NOT "1" == "0" ping localhost 1>nul & goto :CompatCheckRunning

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser"

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser 6/3/2015 4:41:12 AM Running

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready

C:\temp>if NOT "1" == "0" ping localhost 1>nul & goto :CompatCheckRunning

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser"

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser 6/3/2015 3:23:27 AM Running

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready

C:\temp>if NOT "1" == "0" ping localhost 1>nul & goto :CompatCheckRunning

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser"

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser 6/3/2015 4:10:42 AM Running

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready

C:\temp>if NOT "1" == "0" ping localhost 1>nul & goto :CompatCheckRunning

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser"

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser 6/3/2015 3:29:56 AM Running

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready

C:\temp>if NOT "1" == "0" ping localhost 1>nul & goto :CompatCheckRunning

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser"

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser 6/3/2015 3:51:28 AM Running

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready

C:\temp>if NOT "1" == "0" ping localhost 1>nul & goto :CompatCheckRunning

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser"

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser 6/3/2015 3:48:19 AM Running

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready

C:\temp>if NOT "1" == "0" ping localhost 1>nul & goto :CompatCheckRunning

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser"

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser 6/3/2015 3:20:42 AM Running

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready

C:\temp>if NOT "1" == "0" ping localhost 1>nul & goto :CompatCheckRunning

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser"

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser 6/3/2015 4:39:45 AM Running

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready

C:\temp>if NOT "1" == "0" ping localhost 1>nul & goto :CompatCheckRunning

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser"

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser 6/3/2015 4:37:59 AM Running

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready

C:\temp>if NOT "1" == "0" ping localhost 1>nul & goto :CompatCheckRunning

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser"

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser 6/3/2015 4:36:01 AM Running

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready

C:\temp>if NOT "1" == "0" ping localhost 1>nul & goto :CompatCheckRunning

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser"

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser 6/3/2015 4:32:25 AM Running

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready

C:\temp>if NOT "1" == "0" ping localhost 1>nul & goto :CompatCheckRunning

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser"

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser 6/3/2015 3:46:20 AM Running

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready

C:\temp>if NOT "1" == "0" ping localhost 1>nul & goto :CompatCheckRunning

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser"

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser 6/3/2015 4:30:02 AM Running

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready

C:\temp>if NOT "1" == "0" ping localhost 1>nul & goto :CompatCheckRunning

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser"

Folder: \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience
TaskName Next Run Time Status
======================================== ====================== ===============
Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser 6/3/2015 4:27:57 AM Running

C:\temp>schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft
Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready

C:\temp>if NOT "1" == "0" ping localhost 1>nul & goto :CompatCheckRunning
They probably are staggering. KB2952664 wasn't available to install on my PC until this morning.
 

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Tom Robertson said:
Yes, depending on which 8.1 you are running: Student, Home, Ultimate, yada will translate into one of two (three?) similar versions of Windows 10.

Peace,
Tom
As I stated earlier, when you upgrade you'll stay on like-to-like editions of Windows. Those who are currently running Windows 7 Starter, Windows 7 Home Basic, or Windows Home Premium will be upgraded to Windows 10 Home......Those who are currently running Windows 7 Professional or Windows Ultimate will be upgraded to Windows 10 Pro......Those who are currently running Windows Phone 8.1 will be upgraded to Windows 10 Mobile......Those who are currently running Windows 8.1 will be upgraded to Windows 10 Home......Those who are currently running Windows 8.1 Pro or Windows 8.1 Pro for Students will be upgraded to Windows 10 Pro.
 

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dpeters11 said:
Try this one, there is a changed error level.

REG QUERY "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\UpgradeExperienceIndicators" /v UpgEx | findstr UpgEx
if "%errorlevel%" == "0" GOTO RunGWX
reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Appraiser" /v UtcOnetimeSend /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f
schtasks /run /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser"
:CompatCheckRunning
schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser"
schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready
if NOT "%errorlevel%" == "1" ping localhost >nul &goto :CompatCheckRunning
:RunGWX
schtasks /run /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Setup\gwx\refreshgwxconfig"
This reported that GWX ran successfully, but still no windows icon in the tray, like I see with my desktop PC. Tried running it through task manager as well. I'll wait a couple more days and retry. Thanks for the help.
 

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MysteryMan said:
As I stated earlier, when you upgrade you'll stay on like-to-like editions of Windows. Those who are currently running Windows 7 Starter, Windows 7 Home Basic, or Windows Home Premium will be upgraded to Windows 10 Home......Those who are currently running Windows 7 Professional or Windows Ultimate will be upgraded to Windows 10 Pro......Those who are currently running Windows Phone 8.1 will be upgraded to Windows 10 Mobile......Those who are currently running Windows 8.1 will be upgraded to Windows 10 Home......Those who are currently running Windows 8.1 Pro or Windows 8.1 Pro for Students will be upgraded to Windows 10 Pro.
Looks like I will get W10 Home. Not crazy about auto updates being mandatory. Wish I had the Pro edition as I read those updates can be deferred if desired.

Have to think about jumping on this.
 

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I get both sides. But on a general home user basis, I agree with it. A few months ago I came across a Vista user that was running with no Service Packs. SP1 was downloaded, but never installed.
 

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Looks like I will get W10 Home. Not crazy about auto updates being mandatory. Wish I had the Pro edition as I read those updates can be deferred if desired.

Have to think about jumping on this.
I wouldn't be surprised if there is a registry setting to turn that off.

Peace,
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I haz a lil ol netbook that uses Win7 Starter Edition. 32 bit Inhell Atom processor. I did boost its memory from 1G to 2G (max). Might as well try that upgrade :) I use it primarily for network stuff around the house as its form factor (and lack of importance) make it a toolbox item that can move about the place to the worksites.

Don "Home Edition? Huh? :) "Bolton
dpeters11 said:
Though if anyone actually uses WIndows 7 Starter or Home Basic, they'll essentially get an upgrade in edition to Home. Home Premium to Home, but that's not actually a downgrade in edition.

Windows 8 users must be on 8.1 to upgrade.
 

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Don "gonna try and take one for the team" Bolton, you might find Win10 isn't a problem. I didn't see Windows 8 slow anything down, in fact it does some things faster--it boots faster and makes me curse Microsoft UI designers faster. :)

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So once the system is on Windows 10, clean installs in the future will be possible on that machine, no need to reinstall Win7 or 8 etc. One thing that hasn't been explained though, what the definition of "that system" is. Changing hardware over time that isn't enough to trigger a reactivation, or something else?

I did ask Gabe Aul, the Engineering Manager for the Operating System Group. He said that they'll be sure to lay it all out in a blog post.
 

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With previous versions of Windows there were lines that could not be crossed. Signatures that the operating system looked for to see if it was being cloned to a new machine or was the "same machine" being upgraded. The basics (adding and removing cards in a PC or replacing a drive) do not seem to bother windows but changing motherboards usually triggered the "new computer" alert. The less physical changes at one time the more likely the OS would accept the upgrade.

I expect that Windows 10 will have a similar line that one cannot cross.

I wish there were no line ... but the license for Windows seems to be for the life of the machine. I have bought several machines starting with Windows 3.1 and operating system licenses for each (even though the old machine went to recycle or cold storage).

Unfortunately a balance needs to be set ... while I'd gladly buy one license one machine and not put one license on multiple machines I am not naive - I know that there are those who would put one license on ten machines or one hundred (or share it with friends or people they don't even know on the Internet).
 

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Windows 10 Home: The consumer-focused desktop edition.
Windows 10 Mobile: The re-branded Windows Phone for smartphones and tablets.
Windows 10 Pro: A desktop edition for PCs, tablets and 2-in-1s aimed at small businesses.
Windows 10 Enterprise: Builds on Windows 10 Pro with added advanced features designed to meet the demands of medium and large sized organisations.
Windows 10 Education: Designed to meet the needs of schools with academic Volume Licensing.
Windows 10 Mobile Enterprise: Designed to deliver the best customer experience to business customers on smartphones and small tablets.
Windows 10 IoT Core: Windows 10 for other devices and machines such as ATMs and handheld terminals.
 

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My laptop showed all the same GWX files and Windows updates as my desktop a couple of weeks ago, so maybe it was a permission that was missing? :scratchin
 
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