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Hey guys would a Acutrac22Pro Meter work with a 5LNB Sat? If not what kind of meter would work? Also do you guys know what size pole is needed if I wanted to mount this satellite in the ground?
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Do you know what size pole and were I can get one to mount a DTV slimline? Also my apartment requires the dish to mounted on the ground, well I live on the 3rd floor. The current cable runs to each apt is only one pair of two coax cables. We have 4 receivers. Is there anyway to connect those two cable runs to a multi-switch or do we need all 4 runs from the dish in order to connect it to a multi-switch.
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Do you know what size pole and were I can get one to mount a DTV slimline? Also my apartment requires the dish to mounted on the ground, well I live on the 3rd floor. The current cable runs to each apt is only one pair of two coax cables. We have 4 receivers. Is there anyway to connect those two cable runs to a multi-switch or do we need all 4 runs from the dish in order to connect it to a multi-switch.
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:welcome_s to DBSTalk!

You need a 2" pole for the Slimline dish.

What receivers/DVR's do you have?
 

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What you could do is invest in a SWM switch. Just search the forum multiple threads on it. In your case you can mount it at the dish. It does require the last generation of IRDs though.
 

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Michael D'Angelo;1699364 said:
:welcome_s to DBSTalk!

You need a 2" pole for the Slimline dish.

What receivers/DVR's do you have?
Thanks Michael!! We are planning on getting 2 HD DVRs and 2 HD receivers. Mertzen what do you mean by last generation IRDs? I will have some more questions about the SWM in a second I am still searching and reading up on what it is.
 

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Thanks Michael!! We are planning on getting 2 HD DVRs and 2 HD receivers. Mertzen what do you mean by last generation IRDs? I will have some more questions about the SWM in a second I am still searching and reading up on what it is.
Mertzen mentioned the SWM that is what I was getting to when I ask what receiver/DVR's.

The receivers you are getting will work with the SWM.

You would have two option but you will probably have to buy either one at this point if you want one because they are both only being used in a few markets right now.

1) SWM8 - it is a external multi-switch that needs 4 lines from the dish connected to it and than you could run one line to your apartment and than use a splitter and you would only need one line to each receiver including the DVR's and you would be able to use both tuners.

You could install the SWM8 outside with the dish and connect 4 short cables from the dish to the SWM and run one line inside.

2) SWMLine - is a Slimline dish with a SWM built in. It only has one output and you would run that inside and use a splitter and than one line to each receiver.

Both units have a power supply that need to be installed inside but you run it in line with the one SAT line coming inside.

As for the SWM8 you could order from a few places online like solidsignal.com or a member here (dave29). He can also get the SWMLine. I am not sure of any place online that can get it right now.
 

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Michael D'Angelo;1699380 said:
Mertzen mentioned the SWM that is what I was getting to when I ask what receiver/DVR's.

The receivers you are getting will work with the SWM.

You would have two option but you will probably have to buy either one at this point if you want one because they are both only being used in a few markets right now.

1) SWM8 - it is a external multi-switch that needs 4 lines from the dish connected to it and than you could run one line to your apartment and than use a splitter and you would only need one line to each receiver including the DVR's and you would be able to use both tuners.

You could install the SWM8 outside with the dish and connect 4 short cables from the dish to the SWM and run one line inside.

2) SWMLine - is a Slimline dish with a SWM built in. It only has one output and you would run that inside and use a splitter and than one line to each receiver.

Both units have a power supply that need to be installed inside but you run it in line with the one SAT line coming inside.

As for the SWM8 you could order from a few places online like solidsignal.com or a member here (dave29). He can also get the SWMLine. I am not sure of any place online that can get it right now.
First let me explain the way my Apartment wiring is set up. I have the two cables running up from the ground to a closet in my apartment. From there I have all the drops from the 4 rooms, each with one cable per room. As of right now it looks like all 4 rooms will have DVRs in them. So my plan is to mount the Slimline outside on a pole that is cemented into the ground with no chance of it ever moving. On the dish I will mount a SWM8. I will then use the two coax drops that go to my apartment and connect them to the swm port 1 and 2. Now going back to my apartment closet that has the two coax drops that come from the dish (SWM1 and SWM2) how do I split those to each room? Do I get a Directv approved SWM splitter like a 1x4? Then that goes to each dvr that internally splits them to both tuners? Below is the ref guide I was looking at. Now if one room had an old Directivo would I use the one coax cable in that room then split the signal using a 1x2 swm splitter?
Thanks guys yall have been a big help!
David

Well it will not let me post a link to the ref guide but i found it on the weaknees site.
 

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First let me explain the way my Apartment wiring is set up. I have the two cables running up from the ground to a closet in my apartment. From there I have all the drops from the 4 rooms, each with one cable per room. As of right now it looks like all 4 rooms will have DVRs in them. So my plan is to mount the Slimline outside on a pole that is cemented into the ground with no chance of it ever moving. On the dish I will mount a SWM8. I will then use the two coax drops that go to my apartment and connect them to the swm port 1 and 2. Now going back to my apartment closet that has the two coax drops that come from the dish (SWM1 and SWM2) how do I split those to each room? Do I get a Directv approved SWM splitter like a 1x4? Then that goes to each dvr that internally splits them to both tuners? Below is the ref guide I was looking at. Now if one room had an old Directivo would I use the one coax cable in that room then split the signal using a 1x2 swm splitter?
Thanks guys yall have been a big help!
David

Well it will not let me post a link to the ref guide but i found it on the weaknees site.
That setup will work except it will not work with a TiVo unit. The SWM will only work with the HR2x's, H2x's, R22, R16 and D12.

You can run the line from SWM1 to the PI (power supply). Then from the PI to a 4-way splitter and run one line to each each receiver. Then you would not need to use SWM2.

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You can run the line from SWM1 to the PI and then to a 2-way splitter and one line to two units. Then the other line from SWM2 to a 2-way splitter and one line to each of the other 2 units.

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You can run the line from SWM1 to the PI. Then run a line from SWM2 to a 4-way splitter and then one line to each receiver.
 

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Michael D'Angelo;1699419 said:
That setup will work except it will not work with a TiVo unit. The SWM will only work with the HR2x's, H2x's, R22, R16 and D12.

You can run the line from SWM1 to the PI (power supply). Then from the PI to a 4-way splitter and run one line to each each receiver. Then you would not need to use SWM2.

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You can run the line from SWM1 to the PI and then to a 2-way splitter and one line to two units. Then the other line from SWM2 to a 2-way splitter and one line to each of the other 2 units.

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You can run the line from SWM1 to the PI. Then run a line from SWM2 to a 4-way splitter and then one line to each receiver.
Ok, so the directivo is not compatible with the the SWM even if I have a cable run directly from say SWM2 to the directivo? Now on the newer dvrs that each have one cable running to them I will be able to maintain the dual tuner functionality with just one cable coming from say the 1x4 splitter correct?
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Ok, so the directivo is not compatible with the the SWM even if I have a cable run directly from say SWM2 to the directivo? Now on the newer dvrs that each have one cable running to them I will be able to maintain the dual tuner functionality with just one cable coming from say the 1x4 splitter correct?
David
Yes on the SWM capable DVR's you will only need to connect one line and it will control both tuners.

There is a way to connect the TiVo if you want but you will only be able to use one tuner?
 

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Michael D'Angelo;1699432 said:
Yes on the SWM capable DVR's you will only need to connect one line and it will control both tuners.

There is a way to connect the TiVo if you want but you will only be able to use one tuner?
Now is there any advantage to using two 1x2 splitters vs a single 1x4 splitter? Also how do you like directv on demand?
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Now is there any advantage to using two 1x2 splitters vs a single 1x4 splitter? Also how do you like directv on demand?
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It does not matter what setup you use with the splitters. I use two 1x2 but that is because that is what I had.

I personally like DoD. It depends on your download speed if you can watch it live or not though. I can watch SD live but HD I have to let download some. As long as you have 3 or 4 MB down you should be able to watch SD live.
 

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Michael D'Angelo;1699441 said:
It does not matter what setup you use with the splitters. I use two 1x2 but that is because that is what I had.

I personally like DoD. It depends on your download speed if you can watch it live or not though. I can watch SD live but HD I have to let download some. As long as you have 3 or 4 MB down you should be able to watch SD live.
Now would I be able to use a sling box and a laptop (lol :lol: ) to set up my dish? Anybody had any luck doing that? Or does anybody had a meter that I can rent from them? I can send them a paypal payment for the full amount of the meter as collateral. haha
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Now would I be able to use a sling box and a laptop (lol :lol: ) to set up my dish? Anybody had any luck doing that? Or does anybody had a meter that I can rent from them? I can send them a paypal payment for the full amount of the meter as collateral. haha
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Yes I know of at least one member (houskamp) that used a Slingbox. I believe you have to put into control mode. Just take your time and move it very slowly.
 

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Do I get a Directv approved SWM splitter like a 1x4? Then that goes to each dvr that internally splits them to both tuners? Below is the ref guide I was looking at. Now if one room had an old Directivo would I use the one coax cable in that room then split the signal using a 1x2 swm splitter?
You are mostly getting the lowdown on the SWM.

You would use the STS-4 splitter. With each run to a DVR.

But note:
- The DTivo box can not be run off the SWM lines. it has to run off a 'legacy' port. And hence can't be split up. There are multiple legacy ports though but then you come back to your lack of lines.
- the SWM only support 8 tuners. So if you get 4 'new' DVRs you reached the capacity of the switch.
 

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You are mostly getting the lowdown on the SWM.

You would use the STS-4 splitter. With each run to a DVR.

But note:
- The DTivo box can not be run off the SWM lines. it has to run off a 'legacy' port. And hence can't be split up. There are multiple legacy ports though but then you come back to your lack of lines.
- the SWM only support 8 tuners. So if you get 4 'new' DVRs you reached the capacity of the switch.
Are there any legacy ports on the SWM switch?
 

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Are there any legacy ports on the SWM switch?
Yes the SWM8 has 3 legacy outputs but you have to run a separate line from each legacy output.

You could use one of the two lines outside to run inside to the PI and than to a splitter for the three rooms.

Then run the 2nd line inside and use a barrel connection to connect it to one of the lines running to whatever room you want the TiVo in but you will only be able to use one tuner.
 
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