Here's a photo from CES Unveiled this evening. Dish was showing off how it will look in LG's webOS.

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It's kind of neat. I assume the normal wiring requirements would exist for a Hopper... but once you have that, you could use one of these smart TVs instead of a Joey. I wonder, in this scenario, if you get free use of the app? Since it would be in lieu of paying a $7 Joey fee for an additional Joey.

 

According to Dave Zatz on Twitter, there is a monthly fee.

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I would of have expected it. No difference than DirecTV RVU TVs


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I would of have expected it. No difference than DirecTV RVU TVs

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Yep;

Appears to be essentially DISH's answer to DIRECTV's RVU enabled Smart TV option.

Though this statement in the PR doesn't really make sense;

...The app can be used instead of DISH's hardware-based Joey, increasing installation options where coaxial or Ethernet wiring may be difficult to access.

.Unless the implication is since these LG Smart TVs might have WiFi and the app can be used over it, you will still need coax or ethernet cable access at the TV's location as does DIRECTV's version.

 

I would of have expected it. No difference than DirecTV RVU TVs

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Except it will work properly I'm sure. :hurah:

I know I know , Its Samsungs Fault! :sleeping:

 

It's a cool idea, but:

1. On my Joey's I lack picture in picture viewing and some other options. Is this still the case?

2. Is the software upgradeable as the program changes?

3. I don't like the fees associated with it. Seems as if there should be some break for this. The Joey unit. itself, is small enough to hide pretty well.

 

Except it will work properly I'm sure. :hurah:

I know I know , Its Samsungs Fault! :sleeping:

Well, there is a huge potential difference between this and RVU sets for DirecTV, This is an app, so Dish should have full control over any updates. With RVU, DirecTV doesn't have that option.

 

. With RVU, DirecTV doesn't have that option.

I'm not sure if that good or bad.

 

I think the fee would have to be similar to cable card, like $2 or something in order to have any appeal. I would actually consider replacing 1 older 720P kitchen TV with a smart TV (assuming they made one in a 32 inch size that is) if I could cut $5 a month from my fees.

 

Well, there is a huge potential difference between this and RVU sets for DirecTV, This is an app, so Dish should have full control over any updates. With RVU, DirecTV doesn't have that option.

That could be a big positive since what I've seen of Samsung's support of the RVU code in the firmware stinks.

It also looks like the app would allow for the use if a WiFi connection where the Samsung RVU client prevents using WiFi. That could be a good thing for the customer but a bad thing for Dish support.

 

Except it will work properly I'm sure. :hurah:
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what makes you think that?

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I think the fee would have to be similar to cable card, like $2 or something in order to have any appeal. I would actually consider replacing 1 older 720P kitchen TV with a smart TV (assuming they made one in a 32 inch size that is) if I could cut $5 a month from my fees.

Same sensible points were made on the DIRECTV side when they came out with their system, but to no avail.

And I imagine DISH will do much the same and strive to do nothing that may upset their current pricing fee structure for extra receivers and clients with this new app.

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I get why they wouldn't want to give this away... but the fee pretty much kills the deal. Joeys have built-in WiFi, right? So... you could put a Joey with your new smart TV and have the same convenience... and if you're going to have to pay either way, I'm not sure the point.

The way to "sell" this would be making a deal with the smart TV company so that it helps sell their particular smart TV and meanwhile helps Dish recruit new customers... and then let users of those TVs use the app on the TV for free. A joint adventure meant to attract business for both companies.

IF you charge customers for it... then it isn't different than what they already can do with a Joey and a "dumb" TV... so where's the incentive to care?

 

I get why they wouldn't want to give this away... but the fee pretty much kills the deal. Joeys have built-in WiFi, right? So... you could put a Joey with your new smart TV and have the same convenience... and if you're going to have to pay either way, I'm not sure the point.

The way to "sell" this would be making a deal with the smart TV company so that it helps sell their particular smart TV and meanwhile helps Dish recruit new customers... and then let users of those TVs use the app on the TV for free. A joint adventure meant to attract business for both companies.

IF you charge customers for it... then it isn't different than what they already can do with a Joey and a "dumb" TV... so where's the incentive to care?

The DIRECVTV folks have been down this same discussion before, why pay the same monthly charge for the client vs. the TV app?