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Dish drops AMC (+WeTV, IFC & Sundance)

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This constant brinksmanship is why I keep asking myself, "Do I really want to commit to two years of not knowing if the channels I watch will be there tomorrow?"

Maybe I'm paying higher prices for DirecTV but it could be considered insurance!
 
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MysteryMan said:
Not a very wise decision if they choose to do so.
'Not a very wise' = 'Real stupid' (in my book) :mad:.

"AMC Networks has some of the most acclaimed programming on television, with shows like Mad Men, The Walking Dead and Breaking Bad."

Got to have my Walking Dead! Let's hope things can get worked out.
 
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Ira Lacher said:
This constant brinksmanship is why I keep asking myself, "Do I really want to commit to two years of not knowing if the channels I watch will be there tomorrow?"

Maybe I'm paying higher prices for DirecTV but it could be considered insurance!
Unless one of your favorite channels is dropped from DirecTV. It happens with all providers at some point, even if it's temporary.
 
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For those who follow the less than 2 hours per week per year that's interesting on the aforementioned channels, I hope it doesn't come to a shutdown.

For me, I pretty much couldn't care less as I'm not invested in any of the four channels. Anything that they show that might be of interest to me is already (or will soon be) available on disc and/or by download.

I think the world needs a lot fewer channels with a lot better content overall.
 
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I love AMC with shows like the Walking Dead and Breaking Bad, but I don't have AMC at this time because Dish only allows you to have access in the 2 highest packages Dish offers. And money is very tight for me right now. I am sure this will only hurt Dish in the long run, as I myself like many others are cord cutting. My 2 year commitment is up next January and Streaming full time is on my horizon. :)
 
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harsh said:
For those who follow the less than 2 hours per week per year that's interesting on the aforementioned channels, I hope it doesn't come to a shutdown.

For me, I pretty much couldn't care less as I'm not invested in any of the four channels. Anything that they show that might be of interest to me is already (or will soon be) available on disc and/or by download.

I think the world needs a lot fewer channels with a lot better content overall.
I never watch them either. They'll return. I really liked VOOM though.
 
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oldschoolecw said:
I love AMC with shows like the Walking Dead and Breaking Bad, but I don't have AMC at this time because Dish only allows you to have access in the 2 highest packages Dish offers. And money is very tight for me right now. I am sure this will only hurt Dish in the long run, as I myself like many others are cord cutting. My 2 year commitment is up next January and Streaming full time is on my horizon. :)
Which is why there's talk about requiring paid cable/sat service to access Hulu. Obviously there are other ways, especially if you don't mind waiting or have an Amazon Prime subscription.
 
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How does E* know that their subs are not watching the AMC networks? While my DVR is connected via broadband my router broke. The phone line is also dead to the 622. I'm sure there are many others in a similar situation.

If they are going by Nielsen data, again they never polled my viewing habits. Even if Nielsen did poll me, does Nielsen track which provider you use?

And another thing, what other networks will E* provide as a substitute? They mention that E* will make "alternative high-value channels available to our customers as replacements."
What "high value" channels are not already available on E*? I can't think of many if any.

In the past they put some AT250 channels into lower tiers, big deal! I'm already an AT 250 sub so in my case that would mean no "alternate high-value" channels" for me.
 
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It may be courtroom "shenanigans" but Charlie holds a grudge and put a lot of money into Voom.

On the other hand, if they drop AMC June 1 that will leave the final two episodes of "Mad Men" season unavailable to Dish subscribers like me. And I will hold a grudge.:mad:
 
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phrelin said:
It may be courtroom "shenanigans" but Charlie holds a grudge and put a lot of money into Voom.

On the other hand, if they drop AMC June 1 that will leave the final two episodes of "Mad Men" season unavailable to Dish subscribers like me. And I will hold a grudge.:mad:
The only good thing is, streaming it from NetFlix and they will probably have this season up in a few months since they stream the series
 
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I've had AMC blocked out of my channel guide for years, so I wouldn't miss it a bit.

Are there other channels involved?
 
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Unless I'm wrong... of the four channels in question (AMC, IFC, Sundance, WeTV) isn't AMC the only one in HD on Dish?

The only show I watch on AMC is the Walking Dead... so honestly I can't say I would miss these channels most of the time.

Rainbow is their own worst enemy... Rainbow killed their own Voom channels not Dish. Voom would have failed completely without Dish carrying those Voom channels for a while when the Voom subscription service died.

I wish that whole mess would end... but it really sounds like the people at Rainbow aren't that bright.

Consider the Walking Dead... the highest rated AMC show, and set some cable/satellite TV ratings records as well... and yet AMC pulled back the budget for the 2nd season and ran off the producer from season one!
 
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IFC runs some oddball reruns that I watch, but I wouldn't miss it if it were gone.

I have Sundance locked out also.

I can't remember watching much on WE other than Frasier once in a while.
 
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I was wondering why DISH have AMC, IFC and We, the SD versions to 393, 393 and 391 respectively, with Sundance (389). Make sone wonder if these channels are moving into an upper tier package. Look at the Uplink Reports this week. These channels are live for me right now on the channels noted above..

I thought they were moving all the movie channels together, until I saw this thread.

At any rate, why I one in a while watch AMC and IFC, they are less entertaining then when they were commercial free networks.

Cablevision aka Rainbow aka AMC NEtworks ruined AMC, IFC and Sundance, just teh way the ruined Voom. THey were more inclined to make profits, but not invest. Yes, AMC has some hit shows, but over 95% of its programming is avaliable on other channels. This will not be much of a loss.

But, DISH will need to step up and offer suitable replacements fro 4 lost channels.
 
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nmetro said:
I was wondering why DISH have AMC, IFC and We, the SD versions to 393, 393 and 391 respectively, with Sundance (389). Make sone wonder if these channels are moving into an upper tier package, as opposed to being dropped. Look at the Uplink Reports this week. These channels are live for me right now on teh channels noted above..

I thought they were moving all the movie channels together, until I saw this thread.
Looks like they're being dropped altogether.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304746604577384080305759926.html
 
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i see that this is just the latest in the fued between Charlie and the Dolans. remember why Fuse and the MSG RSNs were removed from Dish 2 years ago, this is why. Dish could had removed the AMC networks around the same time, but they were already under contract and didn't want another lawsuit. even if the AMC networks and MSG networks are spun off of CableVision, they are still Dolan owned, and as long as they are Dolan owned, chances are unless the lawsuit is dropped. these networks won't be on dish anymore. same goes with Disney, unless they settle in court, these channels that got removed are gone.
 
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MysteryMan said:
Yeah, I read on Yahoo they are dropping AMC, IFC, WETV, and Sundance at the end of June due to high renewal cost.
According to http://www.detroitnews.com/article/...Z/205040443/1361/Dish-Network-to-drop--Mad-Men--network--citing-poor-viewership is a combination high renewal cost vs. the number of viewers:

Dish Network Corp., the second-largest U.S. satellite-TV provider, says it will drop AMC Networks Inc. channels including AMC, WE tv, IFC and Sundance Channel from all packages, citing poor viewership.

Dish, based in Englewood, Colo, will no longer carry the networks because AMC is demanding a "high renewal cost when compared to their low viewership," the company said Friday.
 
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