looks like the annouced youtube premium today. now its all in the details,, same cost but how many streams can you see?

 

ooks like the annouced youtube premium today. now its all in the details,, same cost but how many streams can you see?

YouTube Premium Primetime was mentioned in the WSJ story that started this latest flurry of speculation. Speculators speculated otherwise and were wrong.

Where did you see a mention of the package pricing?

 

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Also USA only so still on cable and sat out side of the usa

 

Also USA only so still on cable and sat out side of the usa

You speak as this is something new. It isn't.

 

we also have to wonder how a place that has 50+ tvs will handle streaming that many signals at once. most of them probably just have avg routers that may not send good signal to every part of their bldgs. every tv may not be smart ready they may not have outlets to plug in extra devices. lots of Issues

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Also USA only
youtube tv right now is for HOME USE ONLY
Primetime Channels. offering premium content from providers like Starz, Showtime, Epix and Paramount Plus directly on YouTube. IS HOME PRIVATE VIEW USE ONLY
Public view tv is different

 

So this would imply no watching on you cell or outside the home

 

so now get rid if the extra directv box and then wait for them to say how this will all work..

 

in several other stories it was mentioned that the price could not go down because of the fox/cbs contracts to protect the local feeds? Its not like people could watch the local games on ST anyway but more because some people might have paid $100 to watch 10 games and perhaps not watched the local at all? It has always been over priced, I cant imagine how many would buy it if it was like $10-20 a month or something.

 

in several other stories it was mentioned that the price could not go down because of the fox/cbs contracts to protect the local feeds?

These "several other stories" were based on pre-award information and speculation. Now we wait to see what the pricing is rather than hanging our hats on all of the commotion leading up to the actual contract.

 

What are YouTube Primetime Channels?

For most Primetime Channels, you can use YouTube to watch on up to three devices at the same time.

Keywords: "For most Primetime Channels". I think that means it could be more. It could be less. Sounds like it is up to the particular channel. So maybe the NFL Sunday Ticket Channel will make it more. Or less.

 

So you will not have to have a YouTube TV subscription in order to get it, correct?

And is there any way to combine the threads into one?

 

Yes that is correct. No need to have a YTTV subscription. You just have to buy the Primetime Channel from Youtube (Not Youtube Premium).

 

What do you guys have against YTTV?

I had it and it was great for the price you paid
1080P Picture
Dolby Digital+ sound
Great Guide that you could customize to your liking
Unlimited DVR at no charge
3 Streams with no extra box charges

The only thing I keep seeing people complain about is channel numbers, but in the guide every channel is named, plus I was able to put my top channels on top.

And no RSN, but for me that was a bonus since I moved from Michigan to Florida 2 years ago, I have no interest in watching the Local Teams.

I have MLB for the Tigers and ESPN+ for the Red Wings, care nothing about Basketball.

I am on D*steam only because of RSNs and left YTTV for this reason.

 

Well I was hoping for a price drop but no luck. I will stick with DStream for now because of RSN.
I can get NFL Network, NFLST and RedZone elsewhere.
For me and I think many others, NFLST should be in the $100-150 range. I feel at that price point and now anyone can get it, Google has a chance to quadruple or more viewers if they did a cheaper rate.

But no doubt about it, DIRECTV and DIRECTV Stream will die off and maybe pretty quickly.

 

It has already been stated it will still be around the same price due to contract restrictions with FOX and CBS.

 

My kids have youtube tv.. Using it just shows how much better a Sat/box setup is. even the remotes for streaming are an awful experience. But are any of the streaming apps really any good to actually use? I havent found one yet

 

It seems to depend on the app - some are almost as easy to navigate as a DVR and some are not, especially when it comes to fast-forwarding, rewinding, and skip features. I would be interested to hear from those who have Youtube TV as to how well the DVR functional works. Now that we know Sunday Ticket will only have DVR functionality in YTTV, I might have to consider switching.

 

I have been a DirecTV (and NFL Sunday Ticket) subscriber since they first offered the product in 1994. It will be fascinating to see how many people bail on DirecTV once Sunday Ticket is gone, and to see what the impact will be on YTTV's numbers, if the speculation turns out to be true.

100% agree

 

I won’t be bailing out from DIRECTV anytime soon. I still get MLB Extra Innings and many other programming throughout the year with them. They are still serving me well in the rural area I live in. I bet the number of people leaving won’t be as high as many are suspecting.

 

I won’t be bailing out from DIRECTV anytime soon. I still get MLB Extra Innings

Same for me.

 

so youtube will need at least twice as many subscribers as directv had.. they had a 1.5 billion a yr deal and lost 500 million a yr on it..

 

No pause during commercial, down button, resume with the dual tuner. Also, feeds in the bar will all be out of synch. Can’t beat the DVR. Also DIRECTV gave me the ST for free for many years of tolerating their high fees. Bad day for Sunday Ticket. Bow to the blue buffering circle.

 

I have the barebones package of D* Stream that gives me my RSNs and I also have YTTV. I prefer YTTV over D* Stream and if they had the RSNs and History, then I would fully switch.

I don't miss paying for 8 receivers for D* satellite. Even with both D* stream and YTTV, I'm still saving about $150 per month.

I am future proofed for streaming and look forward to ST being on YT.

 

Why YouTube spent the money on NFL Sunday Ticket - The Verge

Lots of good details and questions answered from the source in the article

• A key difference between buying Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV over the main YouTube app: only YouTube TV will offer DVR features
• Working on multiscreen as well for sports fans.
• As part of this, going to have creators have exclusive access to games, everything from the first game all the way through the Super Bowl, so that they can produce content on the NFL channel, but they can also produce their own content for YouTube shorts.
• Do things like remixing highlights, clips, interviews, commentary, all of those types of things, whatever our creators can do in that shortform format.
• Offer [Sunday Ticket] service in a la carte fashion on [YouTube] Primetime Channels.
• We have NFL RedZone. That’s part of our arrangement here. That will continue to be available.
• No single team subs for now
• Commerical rights not part of the deal

EDIT: Took 1st person out of bullets to avoid confusion

 

• Commerical rights not part of the deal

That's interesting. That is where a good chunk of the money comes from.

 

I'm through pontificating what might happen or might not, moving forward. I'm elated that YouTube ended up as the winning bidder. We have subscribed to YouTube TV since August 2019, and we are more than satisfied with it as a product. To have NFL Sunday Ticket integrated into that service is a win in our household. Don't care about Trick Play, or specific pieces of DVR functionality, or whatever points anyone is going to try and pick on to say this isn't a great solution. We've lived on an Apple TV remote for three years and have it down pat just like I did working through the 50 buttons on my DIRECTV remote.

I'm simply not concerned about how bars and commercial locations will accommodate this, or who gets commercial rights. For those that are enamored with that process, I hope it's a solution that appeases the masses.

 

For those of us who use DVRs to watch the games, this is bad news. Switching to YTTV for DVR functionality would mean no RSNs, which is a non-starter for those who follow baseball and other sports, especially those who follow in-market teams. Even those who follow out-of-market teams will face blackouts when their team is playing the local team.

 

With the rights to NFL Sunday Ticket shifting to Google and YouTube, DirecTV is moving toward cancelling the channel in favor of NFL RedZone, according to people familiar with the matter. The website Front Office Sports first reported the possibility of DirecTV ending the channel on Thursday.

DirecTV may continue the channel if it is awarded the simulcast rights to NFL Sunday Ticket for business customers like sports bars and restaurants who draw patrons in with the promise of offering access to NFL Sunday Ticket in a public setting, sources said. DirecTV currently offers a simulcast of Amazon Prime Video’s Thursday Night Football telecasts to business customers under a similar arrangement.

DirecTV looks to cancel Sunday Ticket RedZone - The Desk

 

With the rights to NFL Sunday Ticket shifting to Google and YouTube, DirecTV is moving toward cancelling the channel in favor of NFL RedZone, according to people familiar with the matter. The website Front Office Sports first reported the possibility of DirecTV ending the channel on Thursday.

The "Andrew Siciliano" RedZone was created as part of NFL ST as presented on DIRECTV to show all the scores from all the games. NFL Network launched their own version of Red Zone (the "Scott Hansen" version) which has been widely available on MVPDs except DIRECTV, which had the NFL ST RedZone. YouTube had a contract to carry NFL Network and the NFL Network Red Zone.

In the initial announcement direct from the NFL it was stated that YouTube would continue to carry the NFL Network channels (exact quote in next paragraph). I don't know why they would need a second channel ... the NFL Network produced version serves the purpose - every score from every game.

"In 2020, the NFL expanded its partnership with a carriage agreement to bring NFL Network and NFL RedZone to YouTube TV subscribers. Under the expanded relationship, the carriage agreement has been extended."

Also from the initial announcement:
"Updated NFL Sunday Ticket product features and functionality will be announced ahead of the 2023 NFL season."

(The initial announcement was linked in what became the first post of this thread.)

I appreciate the Verge article that actually did an interview with a named source to add a little more color commentary.

 

The NFL Network version now has years of experience. I watched it last weekend and it seemed to be game driven. The Sunday Ticket version does have a different audience - people who can flip away to whatever game is being highlighted. People watching the NFL Network version usually have two full game choices - whatever games are on their local CBS and local Fox stations.

Do not expect YouTube's presentation of NFL Sunday Ticket to be identical to DIRECTV's. As noted in the announcement, the details of what features will be included in Sunday Ticket are still being worked out. I expect there will be a fantasy channel and a betting friendly channel. I expect a unified UI where one will tune to a "Sunday Ticket" channel with options to select the games on the screen. But at this point I believe YouTube doesn't even know 100% what will be delivered.

The "on demand" aspect of Sunday Ticket fits perfect with YouTube. Full game replays, highlights, special features. With YouTube having rights to NFL content shared with their content creators YouTube will probably make a fair amount of money off of the content created for viewers outside of Sunday Ticket. It is an entirely different perspective than delivering a few hours of content live on Sunday afternoon.

 

I have had DIRECTV for 38 years with NO major problems! Excellent Customer Service! Have had NFL SUNDAY TICKET FOREVER! NEVER NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH ANY BROADCAST ON NFLST!! SURE HOPE “YOU TUBE” has the Technical Personnel to DELIVER PERFECT RESULTS OF ALL BROADCASTS!!!!

 

The fact that you have had DIRECTV 10 years longer then they have existed is a true testament

 

I wonder if NBC Sports Philly will be carried on D* now that they don't have NFLST.

 

Is that the one Comcast owns and will not let Satellite Providers carry because of some loophole?

Yep, just looked it up, no sat, but it is on YTTV and Hulu Live, also soon to be on Peacock.

 

Sunday Ticket is actually a better fit with YouTube than Apple because of Youtube's live TV service. Subscribers to Youtube TV will be able to watch every Sunday afternoon game, either on a local channel or on NFLST. And if an early game telecast runs over, the NFLST feed can be unblocked until the early telecast ends. They could even improve on the way DirecTV handled it by automatically redirecting viewers to the appropriate feed for the game they want to watch. They could provide a menu of the entire slate of games for the day and just redirect users to whichever feed has the game they choose. That would comply with the broadcast restrictions protecting local stations while providing a more seamless experience for users. I'm not saying it will happen, but it's possible.

 

I've had DirecTV for almost 20 years, but I'm planning to switch to Youtube TV. The lack of DVR functionality in the ala carte of NFLST offering is a deal-breaker for me. The only downside for me in the YouTube channel lineup is that there is no RSN. That would be a big deal if I followed an in-market MLB team, but my team is out-of-market and only 6 games on next season's schedule will be subject to blackout on MLB.TV. On the plus side, I will save approximately $100 per month by making the switch.

 

I've had DirecTV for almost 20 years, but I'm planning to switch to Youtube TV. The lack of DVR functionality in the ala carte of NFLST offering is a deal-breaker for me.

I am looking forward to seeing what the actual offering will be. It was noted in one of the interviews that YouTube TV subscribers would be able to DVR the games ... but the full limitations of the YouTube Primetime version is not known. Will full game replays be available via either version? A full game replay via Primetime would be practically the same as a DVRd version (although a replay may not be available until after the end of the game).

So much to find out after YouTube has determined exactly what they are offering and at what price.

 

My wife and I have started the exercise of listing all the channels we must have and all the advantages and disadvantages of swapping to another service after all these years. I just got my bill here this past week and with no discounts it is about $230.00/month. We have 3 DVR's, plus a standalone receiver so the equipment fees alone ain't cheap.
DirecTV has been a really good service for us for 25+ years, but the reason we have stayed with them has been NFLST. With that now gone. it's time to look around, at least for us.
I look forward to seeing what the pricing details will be and if they will throw a bone to new subscribers.

 

Same here, the equipment fees alone cost almost $40 a month for us with DirecTV. I think we've paid for the hardware several times over. We'll be paying $171 a month for the Choice package with the price increase next month, compared to $65 a month for Youtube TV. I'm planning to make the switch before baseball starts and sign up for MLB.TV either directly or as a YTTV add-on. That way I won't be blocked from streaming the MLB preseason games as I have been most years with DirecTV. From what I've read so far, the MLB.TV telecasts can be DVR'd if you sign up as a YTTV add-on.